Will Defoe become our all time top scorer?
Given the circumstances such as his four year deal, age, adjusting to league, chance of injury and that DeRo will be adding to his tally, do you think Defoe will be our all time top goal scorer when his time here is done?
DeRo is currently on 32 goals for the Reds in all competitions.
Last edited by Stryker; 02-22-2014 at 08:10 PM.
If he puts up Rob Keane numbers like I suspect he will, then yes, he should finish as our top scorer IMO.Originally Posted by Stryker
Somewhere in the 60 goal range.
I'm not going to consider injuries, because fuck them.
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As long as he's here for at least a couple of years (as he should be), I think it's a virtual guarantee. He'll be surrounded by quality no other goal scorer in our history has ever had, too.
Defoe would have to be a washout of epic proportions, for this to not happen.
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Is like to believe that Defoe can score more than 32 goals in 4 years.
His skill level and pedigree (plus his style) should be more like 15-20 per season.
yeah and if this team starts to gel and avoids wider injuries
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It's certainly not a stretch to assume Defoe is going to be our most prolific goal-scorer this season, but just how many he'll bag is a hard prediction to make. I want to say he'll end the 2014 regular season sitting on 18 goals. With a 34 match season, that comes out to about 1 goal every two games.
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If he does well, he'll play for England, and not to mention injuries... it's possible he gets something like 12-15 in his first season, 10 after that, then maybe 5... nothing's guaranteed. I'd say it's likely, mind you
gilberto?
Potentially yes, although it's hard to say what he'll do in his first season considering he'll be gone for a bunch of games assuming he gets called up to England's World Cup team.
It all depends on how long it takes him to adapt to the team/league. He has the potential, there is no doubt about it. And if Gilberto sticks round for the long term, hes what, 7 years Defoes junior? Another potential guy there. We have some very good forwards on the team now. Really excited to see how they take off!
anyone who gets called up to WC leaves TFC on 18 May, one week of rest, then joins national team camp. with no games scheduled for group stage, min 3 games missed.
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Well, DeRo is sure to add to his total this season. What could have been......
I think Defoe will suffer a bit of MLS culture shock when he gets here. I'm expecting he and Gilberto won't score more than 10-12 goals each this first season, which is still a 200% improvement over last year. The extra goals we need to win will have to come from the rest of the team - DeRo, Osario, Weideman, etc.
No, I believe he isn't going to play too many games. He will play regular season games (except for games played on field turf and when we have couple of games in same week ) and bigger games in CCL (assuming we win V-Cup).
I think DeRo (current TFC all-time goal scorer) might add more goals to increase record.
Seriously? You don't spend that kind of money to have him play half the games.
What was Nelsen saying about DeRo getting very limited minutes this year? It sounds like he's the one they aren't planning on playing very much.
If Defoe and/or Gilberto are not challenging for the all time goals scored record at TFC in 2 or 3 years then they will not have lived up to expectations.
It doesn't take prolific numbers to be challenging for that title
But you don't take risks as well with money you have tied up with some of these players. I would be shocked if Defoe plays any games on fieldturf and games that team has short period of time to rest. Of course amount of travelling we do here might play a role on guys like Defoe how many games they would play.
As for DeRo, if he can score 5 goals this season and next season (assuming he comes back), then that's 40 goals right there he has scored for TFC.
Last edited by TFC07; 02-25-2014 at 02:14 PM.
Defoe, Gilberto and Bradley will play as much games as they can. TFC can't afford to sit them.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
And TFC can't afford to have them blow out their legs on artificial turf. So Seattle, Portland, Vancouver, and New England away games are out. That's not too many games, is it?
I'd be very shocked if Defoe and Bradley doesn't play vs Seattle, barring injury. Esp with the game now on national TV
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Yeah if the NBA can come down on Greg Popovic for resting his star players against Miami on a Thurssday nighter TFC better believe the league will breathe fire if they hold their stars out of a showcase game due to turf.
On the DeRo thing, Nelsen seemed kind of cryptic in the interview following the Orlando game (if I remember right). Seemed to be suggesting DeRo isn't going to get a lot of playing time. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything on that?
The difference is fielding condition. If MLS wants teams not to rest their star players because field turf, then make grass mandatory throughout the league. You don't invest in millions and risk getting injured because turf. We don't want another Danny K situation here.
EDIT: Beckham and Henry both avoid field turf as much as possible. I didn't see MLS fining teams and players for that.
MLS season is long and plus you add non-MLS games (like V-cup and hopefully CCL), then DeRo will have a chance to play good amount of games this season.
That was such a ridiculous fine. The coach/manager should be able to do whatever the fuck they want, they always keep the best interests of the players in mind. Fuck that league interference shit, TFC should litigate the league if they fine them. Its not TFC's fault MLS still accepts turf.
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