"Safe Standing" Getting a lot of Ink these days. . . .

[Technorgasm]

I'm extremely split on the subject, but there seems to be quite a few clubs considering installing "Safe Standing" Sections.
Wondering what the folks here think of it.


http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/footb...hton-gate.html




Bristol City have become the first football league club to install new ‘rail seating’ which is hoped will be the design used at the forefront of the ongoing lobby to bring safe standing sections back into the English game.
The Robins are keen to redevelop Ashton Gate at the end of the season and have pressed ahead in fitting out their Williams Stand with a small demonstration section of rail seating – with the usual plastic seats able to be folded up and held in an upright position to create a terraced area for standing, complete with a hand-rail which also doubles as a frame for the seat itself.

(side note, if you didn't know any better that pic would look right at home at BMO)

[tfcleeds]

Standing is the proper way to watch football. If there's a safer way to do it, I'm all for it!

[PopePouri]

If Lieweke is going to modify BMO and going to consult the supporters (lol), we should ask if this can be an option.

Also, the best football to watch in terms of supporters and fan support all have standing areas IMO.

[nobodybeatsthewiz]

Dortmund's european-largest kop end is either all ir partial hybrid improvised safe standing. Not sure how safety stats have changed but all in all it gets good reviews

[PopePouri]

[denime]

If Lieweke is going to modify BMO and going to consult the supporters (lol), we should ask if this can be an option.

Also, the best football to watch in terms of supporters and fan support all have standing areas IMO.

This,and most if not all German stadiums have these "seats" behind the net.

"New South"should be build just like the picture above,it allows steeper stands(more rows,more fans in stands),and still secure enough to pass all FIFA standards.

[Abou Sky]

I'm extremely split on the subject, but there seems to be quite a few clubs considering installing "Safe Standing" Sections.
Wondering what the folks here think of it.


http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/footb...hton-gate.html




Bristol City have become the first football league club to install new ‘rail seating’ which is hoped will be the design used at the forefront of the ongoing lobby to bring safe standing sections back into the English game.
The Robins are keen to redevelop Ashton Gate at the end of the season and have pressed ahead in fitting out their Williams Stand with a small demonstration section of rail seating – with the usual plastic seats able to be folded up and held in an upright position to create a terraced area for standing, complete with a hand-rail which also doubles as a frame for the seat itself.

(side note, if you didn't know any better that pic would look right at home at BMO)

I would bet that through study, this would end up SAFER than what exists right now

I would like to see a second rail half way for little people but my son has slipped a few times in 112 in the rain and those rails would likely have been something for him to hold onto.

Thinking on it... having a 9 year old jumping up and down on wet plastic is probably pretty dangerous... don't tell his mom

[Joe Kool]

Seems like a pretty good idea. I have seen a few bad falls forward over seats in the last few years. I also saw a big fight break out one game in 115 and this would have reduced the amount of injury to bystanding people in the section. I am all for it.

[Hustle]

I hope they give this consideration in the renovation plan.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

I'm extremely split on the subject, but there seems to be quite a few clubs considering installing "Safe Standing" Sections.
Wondering what the folks here think of it.


http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/footb...hton-gate.html




Bristol City have become the first football league club to install new ‘rail seating’ which is hoped will be the design used at the forefront of the ongoing lobby to bring safe standing sections back into the English game.
The Robins are keen to redevelop Ashton Gate at the end of the season and have pressed ahead in fitting out their Williams Stand with a small demonstration section of rail seating – with the usual plastic seats able to be folded up and held in an upright position to create a terraced area for standing, complete with a hand-rail which also doubles as a frame for the seat itself.

(side note, if you didn't know any better that pic would look right at home at BMO)

would be 100 percent for a southend set up like this.

[Abou Sky]

Anyone have an argument against it?

[TOBOR !]

^ only to say that I think the folding seat works against the proposal. Remove it altogether. It's just something that can be stood on (providing a safety risk), or ripped out and flung.

Just have the rails and assigned standing locations.

[mowe]

^ only to say that I think the folding seat works against the proposal. Remove it altogether. It's just something that can be stood on (providing a safety risk), or ripped out and flung.

Just have the rails and assigned standing locations.

They would have to change the law to allow standing sections again. Having the seats as part of the design is a necessary compromise.

[McBrace]

Would suck for my kids at the match. They wouldn't be able to watch that match until they hit an average height.

[Huyton]

I like to sit down at half time, and before a game, so I'd prefer that fold up seat be there.

[jimiv]

Anyone have an argument against it?

The poor Argo fans won't fit.

[Hustle]

Would suck for my kids at the match. They wouldn't be able to watch that match until they hit an average height.

Just curious how your kids watch in a standing area now? Wouldn't a safe standing area be steeper than seated area and thus better for spectators or all heights?

[McBrace]

We're in the 3rd Row and most people don't stand.

[PopePouri]

We're in the 3rd Row and most people don't stand.

I think if safe standing were to be implemented, it has to be with general admission. That way people who can't see are able to move elsewhere to do so.

[Huyton]

We're in the 3rd Row and most people don't stand.

So what do you do if the people in front of you stand? I presume you're in a supporters section where they can stand if they want to.

[Oldtimer]

The poor Argo fans won't fit.

You're right!

[McBrace]

Not much I can do, as I am well aware that this is a standing or sitting section. I just rather leave it the way it is. If you wanna stand, stand, if you wanna sit, sit! Changing it to this design just forces people to stand, which isn't what some people want to do.

We haven't had a problem to date. The stadium has been pretty empty the last couple of years, especially in my section. I think with all the signings that will change. I also haven't brought the kids to that many games, but I'm hoping to bring them to most of them this coming season. I hope people are nice enough to just switch with us so they can just stand behind the kids. (I have done this in the past with kids behind me).

I don't think you will ever see general admission for the entire south end. Just my opinion.

[gdg_9]

I like to sit down at half time, and before a game, so I'd prefer that fold up seat be there.

I agree with this.

It's nice to have somewhere to sit before kickoff, at half time, or even after the game sometimes while waiting for the aisles to clear out.

But having them fold up completely to give more standing space during the game is a great idea!

[BBLaw]

The poor Argo fans won't fit.

Argo fans? There is such thing?

[Ossington Mental Youth]

Dortmund's european-largest kop end is either all ir partial hybrid improvised safe standing. Not sure how safety stats have changed but all in all it gets good reviews

stadiums in the Bundesliga (and one would assume the DFB) have to have 10% standing room

[Technorgasm]

I love the picture.
There is notices wrnnig of flags and "consistent standing" as it is now.
If there is to be a refurb of BMO, this could easily be a part of the conversation shoudl the SGs champion it.

at BMO I woudl support it.
At Anfield, I wouldnt.

my $0.02

[Super]

Damn, that's craziness.



We've got quite a long way to go.

[OgtheDim]

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Personally, I'm noticing the whole concrete thing.....would be nice to have some permanency all over the place.


I'm for this, although I understand why Liverpool wouldn't want it. Too many memories.

[PopePouri]

The worry is if there's going to be another Hillsborough which is understandable but I think standing areas can be done correctly. Bristol Rover has done its homework though proving a barrier to stop being falling forward and also allowing people the option to use the fold out seating if need be.

Damn, that's craziness.

We've got quite a long way to go.

That stand itself can hold more people than BMO.

[hulkrogan]

I always feel awkward standing at sporting events. I'm 6'7", so I feel like a dink to the people behind me, especially if it's kids, but obviously if the people in front of me are standing, I can't see unless I'm standing.

Whats the expected ettiquette for giants?!