Who has won the offseason so far?

[Oldtimer]

Which club has won the transfer game?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...transfers_2014

[tfcleeds]

Uh, Vancouver?

[notthesun]

Let's be honest. It's TFC by a fucking country mile.

That being said, I'd say Philadelphia seems to have done quite well. D.C. has made a bunch of improvements as well.

[KGH]

	IN: D/M Eric Miller (1/16/14 - SuperDraft) F Santiago González (2/14/14 - discovery signing)	OUT: D Alessandro Nesta (11/8/13 - retired) M Paolo DelPiccolo (11/25/13 - option declined) M Maximiliano Rodríguez (11/25/13 - option declined) M Sinisa Ubiparipovic (12/9/13 - option declined) M Davy Arnaud (12/10/13 - traded to D.C. United) D Zarek Valentin (12/19/13 - transfer to Bodø/Glimt)
	IN: M Paolo DelPiccolo (11/25/13 - Waiver Draft) GK Brad Knighton (12/11/13 - trade from Vancouver) F Charlie Davies (1/9/14 - transfer from Randers) M/F Steve Neumann (1/16/14) - SuperDraft F Patrick Mullins (1/16/14 - SuperDraft)	OUT: F Chad Barrett (11/22/13 - option declined) M Ryan Guy (11/22/13 - option declined) D Tyler Polak (11/22/13 - option declined) GK Matt Reis (11/22/13 - option declined) M Clyde Simms (11/22/13 - option declined) M Juan Toja (11/22/13 - option declined) D Bilal Duckett (11/22/13 - waived) F Matt Horth (11/22/13 - waived) M Gabe Latigue (11/22/13 - waived) F Juan Agudelo (11/22/13 - out of contract) GK Matt Reis (12/11/13 - retired)
	IN: M Bobby Convey (12/13/13 - trade from Toronto) D Armando (1/23/14 - free transfer) D Richard Eckersley (1/27/14 - trade from Toronto)	OUT: GK Kevin Hartman (11/21/13 - retired) D David Carney (11/25/13 - option declined) D Brandon Barklage (11/25/13 - option declined) D Heath Pearce (11/27/13 - out of contract) F Fabián Espíndola (12/9/13 - option declined) D Markus Holgersson (1/2/14 - contract terminated)
	IN: M Corben Bone (12/12/13 - Re-Entry Stage 1) D Ethan White (1/14/14 - trade from Philadelphia) M Cristian Maidana (1/15/14 - free transfer) GK Andre Blake (1/16/14 - SuperDraft) M Maurice Edu (1/27/14 - loan from Stoke City) M Vincent Nogueira (1/30/14 - transfer from Sochaux) GK Brian Holt (2/3/14 - free)	OUT: GK Oka Nikolov (11/25/13 - waived) M Greg Jordan (11/25/13 - waived) M Kléberson (11/25/13 - waived) F Don Anding (11/25/13 - waived) D Chris Albright (11/25/13 - retired) M Michael Farfan (12/23/13 - transferred to Cruz Azul) D Jeff Parke (1/14/14 - traded to D.C. United)
	IN: D Jorge Villafaña (12/12/13 - trade from Chivas USA) M Steve Zakuani (12/12/13 - Re-Entry Stage 1) GK Andrew Weber (1/10/14 - free) F Gastón Fernández (1/15/14 - transfer from Estudiantes de La Plata) D Norberto Paparatto (1/15/14 - transfer from Tigre) D Bryan Gallego (1/15/14 - Homegrown) M/F Schillo Tshuma (1/16/14 - SuperDraft) D Taylor Peay (2/11/14 - SuperDraft)	OUT: D David Horst (12/9/13 - option declined) D Ryan Miller (12/9/13 - option declined) D Dylan Tucker-Gangnes (12/9/13 - waived) F Brent Richards (12/9/13 - waived) D Andrew Jean-Baptiste (12/12/13 - traded to Chivas USA) M Sal Zizzo (12/13/13 - traded to Sporting KC) D David Horst (12/17/13 - traded to Houston) F Sebastián Rincón (1/10/14 - loan expired) F José Valencia (1/15/14 - loaned to Club Olimpo) GK Milos Kocic (1/25/14 - retired) D Mikaël Silvestre (1/27/14 - contract terminated)
	IN: M/F Jordan Allen (12/31/13 - Homegrown) M Luke Mulholland (1/21/14 - free)	OUT: M Yordany Álvarez (12/9/13 - out of contract) D Brandon McDonald (12/9/13 - out of contract) GK Josh Saunders (12/9/13 - out of contract) M Khari Stephenson (12/9/13 - out of contract) D/M Lovel Palmer (12/13/13 - traded to Chicago)
	IN: M Jean-Baptiste Pierazzi (1/7/14 - Discovery) F Atiba Harris (1/7/14 - trade from Colorado) F Billy Schuler (1/14/14- weighted lottery) M Tommy Thompson (1/17/14 - Homegrown) D Shaun Francis (1/24/14 - Re-Entry Stage 2) D Brandon Barklage (1/24/14 - Re-Entry Stage 2) GK Bryan Meredith (1/24/14 - free)	OUT: M Ramiro Corrales (11/22/13 - retired) D Nana Attakora (11/22/13 - option declined) D Dan Gargan (11/22/13 - option declined) F Marcus Tracy (11/22/13 - option declined) GK Evan Newton (11/22/13 - option declined) D Peter McGlynn (11/22/13 - option declined) F Cesar Diaz Pizarro (11/22/13 - option declined) M Mehdi Ballouchy (12/9/13 - out of contract) D Justin Morrow (12/17/13 - traded to Toronto FC) M Rafael Baca (12/23/13 - transferred to Cruz Azul) M Marvin Chávez (1/7/14 - traded to Colorado) D Steven Beitashour (1/27/14 - traded to Vancouver)
	IN: GK Stefan Frei (12/10/13 - trade from Toronto) F Tristan Bowen (12/11/13 - trade from Chivas) D Chad Marshall (12/12/13 - trade from Columbus) F Kenny Cooper (12/13/13 - trade from FC Dallas) F Corey Hertzog (12/18/13 - Re-Entry Stage 2) M Aaron Kovar (1/9/14 - Homegrown) F Sean Okoli (1/9/14 - Homegrown) F Chad Barrett (1/9/14 - Re-Entry Stage 2) D Jalil Anibaba (1/15/14 - trade from Chicago) D Damion Lowe (1/16/14 - SuperDraft) M Marco Pappa (1/31/14 - allocation)	OUT: GK Michael Gspurning (12/9/13 - option declined) D Marc Burch (12/9/13 - option declined) M Blair Gavin (12/9/13 - option declined) F Steve Zakuani (12/9/13 - out of contract) M Mauro Rosales (12/11/13 - traded to Chivas USA) M Adam Moffat (12/13/13 - traded to FC Dallas) F Eddie Johnson (12/17/13 - traded to D.C. United) D Jhon Kennedy Hurtado (1/15/14 - traded to Chicago) D Patrick Ianni (1/15/14 - traded to Chicago) F Fredy Montero (1/30/14 - transfer to Sporting CP)
	IN: M Sal Zizzo (12/13/13 - trade from Portland) GK Andy Gruenebaum (12/16/13 - trade from Columbus)	OUT: GK Jimmy Nielsen (12/9/13 - retired) D Kyle Miller (12/11/13 - waived) D Brendan Ruiz (12/11/13 - waived)
	IN: M Jackson (12/9/13 - trade from FC Dallas) F Gilberto (12/13/13 - transfer from SC Internacional) D Justin Morrow (12/17/13 - trade from San Jose) F Jordan Hamilton (1/9/14 - Homegrown) M Dwayne De Rosario (1/9/14 - Re-Entry Stage 2) F Jermain Defoe (1/10/14 - transfer from Tottenham) M Michael Bradley (1/13/14- transfer from AS Roma) D Bradley Orr (1/24/14 - loan from Blackburn Rovers) GK Júlio César (2/14/14 - loan from Queens Park Rangers)	OUT: M Michael Thomas (11/29/13 - option declined) M Darel Russell (11/29/13 - option declined) F Robert Earnshaw (11/29/13 - option declined) F Justin Braun (12/9/13 - out of contract) F Danny Koevermans (12/9/13 - out of contract) GK Stefan Frei (12/10/13 - trade to Seattle) M Bobby Convey (12/13/13 - trade to New York) D Richard Eckersley (1/27/14 - trade to New York) D Jonas Elmer (2/7/14 - contract terminated)
	IN: D Christian Dean (1/15/14 - SuperDraft) M Andre Lewis (1/15/14 - SuperDraft) M Mehdi Ballouchy (1/26/14 - Re-Entry Stage 2) D Steven Beitashour (1/27/14 - traded from San Jose) M/F Sebastián Fernández (2/5/14 - loan from Boston River) M/F Nicolás Mezquida (2/5/14 - transfer from Boston River)	OUT: D Lee Young-Pyo (10/27/13 - retired) D Greg Klazura (11/25/13 - option declined) GK Joe Cannon (11/28/13 - option declined) GK Simon Thomas (11/28/13 - option declined) D Brad Rusin (11/28/13 - option declined) M Jun Marques Davidson (11/28/13 - option declined) M Daigo Kobayashi (11/28/13 - option declined) F Tommy Heinemann (11/28/13 - option declined) F Corey Hertzog (11/28/13 - option declined) GK Brad Knighton (12/11/13 - traded to New England) F Camilo Sanvezzo (1/17/14 - transfer to Querétaro)

[Oldtimer]

Montreal did almost nothing.

[KGH]

	IN: D/M Lovel Palmer (12/13/13 - trade from Real Salt Lake) F Harrison Shipp (1/9/14 - Homegrown) GK Kyle Reynish (1/10/14 - free) M Chris RItter (1/13/14 - Homegrown) D Jhon Kennedy Hurtado (1/15/14 - trade from Seattle) D Patrick Ianni (1/15/14 - trade from Seattle) F Giuseppe Gentile (1/24/14) - waiver draft M Benji Joya (2/5/14 - weighted lottery)	OUT: GK Paolo Tornaghi (11/25/13 - waived) M Arévalo Ríos (11/25/13 - option declined) D Michael Videira (12/9/13 - option declined) M Corben Bone (12/9/13 - option declined) M Joel Lindpere (12/9/13 - option declined) F Maicon Santos (12/9/13 - option declined) D Shaun Francis (12/9/13 - out of contract) D Wells Thompson (12/9/13 - out of contract) M Daniel Paladini (12/12/13 - traded to Columbus) D Jalil Anibaba (1/15/14 - traded to Seattle)
	IN: M Mauro Rosales (12/11/13 - trade from Seattle) D Andrew Jean-Baptiste (12/12/13 - trade from Portland) F Adolfo Bautista (1/14/14 - free) D Tony Lochhead (1/22/14 - free) D Andrew Ribeiro (1/23/14 - free) D Fejiro Okiomah (1/27/14 - free) D Donny Toia (1/27/14 - free) M Thomas McNamara (2/14/14 - SuperDraft)	OUT: D Mario de Luna (11/21/13 - end of loan from CD Guadalajara) D Jaime Frias (11/21/13 - end of loan from CD Guadalajara) M Edgar Mejía (11/21/13 - end of loan from CD Guadalajara) F Julio Morales (11/21/13 - end of loan from CD Guadalajara) GK Patrick McLain (11/21/13 - option declined) D Steve Purdy (11/21/13 - option declined) D Daniel Antunez (11/21/13 - option declined) M Marvin Iraheta (11/21/13 - option declined) M Josue Soto (11/21/13 - option declined) F José Manuel Rivera (11/21/13 - option declined) F Tristan Bowen (12/11/13 - traded to Seattle) D Jorge Villafaña (12/12/13 - traded to Portland) M Gabriel Farfan (2/3/14 - loaned to Chiapas)
	IN: D/M Marc Burch (12/12/13 - Re-Entry Stage 1) M Marvin Chávez (1/7/14 - trade from San Jose) M Marlon Hairston (1/16/14 - SuperDraft) D Grant Van De Casteele (1/16/14 - SuperDraft) GK Joe Nasco (2/12/14 - free) M Jared Watts (2/12/14 - free)	OUT: D Diego Calderón (11/21/13 - loan expired) M Jaime Castrillón (12/9/13 - option declined) GK Steward Ceus (12/9/13 - option declined) M Jamie Smith (12/9/13 - option declined) M/D Anthony Wallace (12/9/13 - out of contract) F Atiba Harris (1/7/14 - traded to San Jose) M Jamie Smith (1/10/14 - retired) M Tony Cascio (1/21/14 - loaned to Houston) M Hendry Thomas (2/12/14 - traded to FC Dallas)
	IN: GK Brad Stuver (11/25/13 - Waiver Draft) D Waylon Francis (11/26/13 - Discovery) D Matt Wiet (11/26/13 - Homegrown) M Daniel Paladini (12/12/13 - trade from Chicago) GK Steve Clark (12/16/13 - trade from Seattle) D Ross Friedman (1/8/14 - Homegrown) M Matt Walker (1/8/14 - Homegrown) D Michael Parkhurst (1/13/14 - rights acquired from New England) M Hector Jimenez (1/14/14 - trade from LA Galaxy)	OUT: M Eddie Gaven (10/31/13 - retired) M Matías Sánchez (10/31/13 - waived) F Aaron Horton (10/31/13 - waived) D Drew Beckie (11/22/13 - option declined) D Gláuber (11/22/13 - option declined) D Kyle Hyland (11/22/13 - option declined) D/M Danny O’Rourke (11/22/13 - option declined) M Konrad Warzycha (11/22/13 - option declined) D Chad Marshall (12/12/13 - traded to Seattle) GK Andy Gruenebaum (12/16/13 - traded to Kansas City)
	IN: M Davy Arnaud (12/10/13 - trade from Montreal) D Sean Franklin (12/12/13 - Re-Entry Stage 1) D Bobby Boswell (12/12/13 - Re-Entry Stage 1) F Conor Doyle (12/13/13 - transfer from Derby County) F Eddie Johnson (12/17/13 - trade from Seattle) F Fabian Espindola (12/18/13 - Re-Entry Stage 2) D Jalen Robinson (1/6/14 - Homegrown) D Nana Attakora (1/9/14 - Re-Entry Stage 2) D Jeff Parke (1/14/14 - trade from Philadelphia) D Steve Birnbaum (1/16/14 - SuperDraft) F Christiano Francois (1/24/14 - waiver draft) D Christian Fernández (2/7/14 - free)	OUT: F Carlos Ruiz (10/30/13 - option declined) F Lionard Pajoy (10/30/13 - option declined) M Marcelo Saragosa (10/30/13 - option declined) M Dwayne De Rosario (10/31/13 - option declined) M/F Syamsir Alam (11/1/13 - option declined) D James Riley (12/9/13 - option declined) M John Thorrington (12/9/13 - option declined) D Daniel Woolard (12/9/13 - option declined) D Dennis Iapichino (12/9/13 - out of contract) D Dejan Jakovic (1/14/14 - transferred to Shimizu S-Pulse) D Ethan White (1/14/14 - traded to Philadelphia)
	IN: M Ryan Hollingshead (12/9/13 - 2013 SuperDraft) M Adam Moffat (12/13/13 - trade from Seattle) M Brian Span (1/9/14 - weighted lottery) M Hendry Thomas (2/12/14 - traded from Colorado) F Andres Romero Escobar (2/14/14 - loan from Dynamo Kiev)	OUT: M David Ferreira (11/25/13 - option declined) M Ramon Nuñez (11/25/13 - option declined) M Erick (11/25/13 - option declined) M Jackson (12/9/13 - traded to Toronto) M Victor Ulloa (12/9/13 - out of contract) D Ugo Ihemelu (12/9/13 - option declined) F Kenny Cooper (12/13/13 - traded to Seattle)
	IN: D David Horst (12/17/13 - trade from Portland) D A.J. Cochran (1/16/14 - SuperDraft) M Tony Cascio (1/21/14 - loan from Colorado)	OUT: F Brian Ching (11/25/13 - retired) D Bobby Boswell (12/9/13 - out of contract) F Calen Carr (12/9/13 - out of contract) D Mike Chabala (12/9/13 - option declined) M Alex Dixon (12/9/13 - option declined) F Cam Weaver (12/9/13 - option declined)
	IN: M Baggio Husidic (11/14/13 - free) F Samuel (1/7/14 - loan from Fluminense) F Rob Friend (1/13/14 - free transfer) M Stefan Ishizaki (1/30/14 - free transfer)	OUT: M Colin Clark (12/9/13 - option declined) M Laurent Courtois (12/9/13 - option declined) D Sean Franklin (12/9/13 - option declined) M Michael Stephens (12/9/13 - out of contract) M Pablo Mastroeni (12/10/13 - retired) F Jose Villarreal (12/23/13 - loaned to Cruz Azul) M Hector Jimenez (1/14/14 - traded to Columbus) M Kyle Nakazawa (1/21/14 - retired)

[Waggy]

This thread should be titled "Who had the second best offseason so far"

[WestStandGeoff]

This thread should be titled "Who had the second best offseason so far"

This +1000.

Defoe, Bradley, Gilberto, and now Cesar coming in... not even a close contest for who won!

[KGH]

Winners:
1) Toronto
2) Philly
3) Seattle

TBD:
1) DC
2) Portland
3) LA
4) Crew

Losers:
1) Vancouver
2) Montreal

[Pint]

I have liked what DC have done... especially them cutting Dero so we could bring him home. Philly has done well but really it is Toronto in 1st by a mile in the offseason game, now hopefully that will translate to the pitch but we will have to wait a month+1 day to see how it starts.

[tfcleeds]

I think DCU has had the 2nd most impressive offseason, in terms of bringing in established MLS players. But in terms of potential, Philly might be 2nd best.

[ensco]

Given that we outspent every other team by 30-50x, this is a bit like asking which car you prefer, a Ford Focus, or a Maserati?

I don't know about Seattle. They lost some seriously important pieces.

[Shakes McQueen]

Given that we outspent every other team by 30-50x, this is a bit like asking which car you prefer, a Ford Focus, or a Maserati?

Agreed. I kind of wish we'd tone down the crowing about how well we've done this winter, because I can just feel karma creeping up on us - cancelling out everything we earned from years and years of futility.

Anyway, I think Philly had a really good off-season. They made some pretty good improvements to their team, at a fraction of the cost we paid (not that I care about what it cost us).

The #1 position on this list is not even a question, but again - winning the offseason does not come with a trophy.

- Scott

[ag futbol]

I can just feel karma creeping up on us

This is very TFC fan esque.

I remember in years 1-3 when people who had a positive outlook on life used to post here. Where did they all go? ahah

[ag futbol]

Depends on the criteria. Clearly, if you want to talk acquisitions we have blown everyone else out of the water. Some clubs had a good offseason simply by not turning over many players (RSL, SKC). Here would be my random observation:

DC: Not so sure about their strategy of picking up other peoples MLS leftovers. That could go really well or really poorly.
Seattle & Portland: both added a fair number of good pieces but still flying under the radar.
SJ: I think they are the other huge loser of this off season nobody talks about. They gave away two very good fullbacks for peanuts and have basically added nothing.

Overall, when you look at the acquisition lists, it fees very "have" or "have not".

[Flipityflu]

shut down any thread that talks about a player and place it in an ever increasingly jumble of one thread, then puts up a waste of time like this. wow

[Waggy]

shut down any thread that talks about a player and place it in an ever increasingly jumble of one thread, then puts up a waste of time like this. wow

Yeah cause having 1 "Offseason moves" thread and one "rate who had the best offseason" thread makes no sense at all. U mad bro?

[Milanista]

what a joke of a question

[Red CB Toronto]

DC is second for me, but man I can not believe this off season for the Reds. it truly shows how amazing and unreal it is. BMO on March 22 it going to be very much like the first game ever at BMO as it is going to take a bit to truly comprehend what you are looking at, a team that has been together by those that truly care.

In the past seven year, only JC in my mind truly wore his true colours on his shoulders and Aaron was a fair man who was put in a situation that he should have never been in. But this is new era, new time, one that we have all been waiting for.

[PopePouri]

God bless the person who voted for Chivas.

[Yohan]

God bless the person who voted for Chivas.

don't be surprised if Chivas USA sneaks into playoffs.

[prizby]

don't be surprised if Chivas USA sneaks into playoffs.

not ahead of LA, RSL, Portland, or Seattle

[Yohan]

not ahead of LA, RSL, Portland, or Seattle

unlikely, but I can se Seattle and RSL imploding. esp RSL. too many key players are starting to get old, esp Morales, and still haven't found proper back up for Saborio. Seattle went through a massive turnover in roster, and who knows how they will click.

honestly, a lot of teams made potentially good moves, and I can't say for sure who will be where come Oct

[prizby]

unlikely, but I can se Seattle and RSL imploding. esp RSL. too many key players are starting to get old, esp Morales, and still haven't found proper back up for Saborio. Seattle went through a massive turnover in roster, and who knows how they will click.

honestly, a lot of teams made potentially good moves, and I can't say for sure who will be where come Oct

luis gil is another year older; still forget he's only 21; then there is olmes garcia
seattle is still going to have 7 or 8 starters from last year; i wouldn't call that a 'massive' overhaul especially of their core. TFC on the other hand are going to have 7 or 8 NEW starters in their line up...chivas is probably in the same boat

it is really a 3 team race for 5th; chivas is going to fall flat (and lets hope so)...we have their first round pick

[OgtheDim]

God bless the person who voted for Chivas.

Looks like the Don is on here.

I would say that move to take them back by MLS is a big win for them for the off season.

[evermorian]

FCD quietly putting together a good team.

[Yohan]

FCD quietly putting together a good team.

pretty much every team is slowly putting together a good team, using TFC to deflect attention

[TFC07]

Better question should be if TFC had best off-season in MLS history.

[prizby]

remember when we apparently 'won' the draft last year.

[Technorgasm]

so, wondering.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUOTES ABOUT TFC FROM OTHER TEAMS IN MLS?
Im really curious to see what people around the league think about that's going on here.