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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    It is an interesting observation that Bradley has never been the same since the USMNT 2018 qualification fiasco. Bradley was never again an elite destroyer after 2018 CCL, and that coincdes pretty tightly to the time where he started facing the music over losing in Trinidad in October 2017.

    It was brutal for a couple of years, he got booed in every US city every time he touched the ball. They still do it in Columbus. It didn’t affect Jozy as much, he revelled in being the monster.

    There are USMNT supporters who believe to this day that MB and Jozy dumped that Trinidad game to avoid a trip for an intercontinental playoff to Sydney, which would have happened in the middle of the 2017 MLS playoffs.
    After Drew Moor picked up his major injury in 2018 that basically started to wind down his career (made him less available and less consistent in playing time) MB never had a competent CB leader behind him to manage more of the defensive responsibilities. Since then MB has been hesitant to attack oncoming opposition with the aggression he had in prior years, I'd chalk that up to lack of confidence in those operating behind him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hala Hrvatska View Post
    Thanks and for context, what you were responding to was my post in the other thread so I copied it here:

    Well IMHO, he was never a technical player, at least not what I think is a technical player (ala Modric or Kova). For the Seria A time, for chievo played 35 games (1 goal), at Roma 41 games and had 2 goals and little to no assists either. Make no mistake though, was very happy when we got him. And I thought he was great for us and a big part of our success.

    I don't say he wasn't great before, not sure where that comes from? He was a great captain also.

    But to be fair also since we are looking back and you mentioned the USMT, the 2018 USMT disasterous failure to qualify for the WC was (in big part) due to him and Jozy not getting it done. And if you recall from post 2017 anytime we played outside of Toronto, they were mercilessly boo'ed everywhere we went due to that 2018 DNQ.
    Didn't you post this somewhere else word for word? Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    The question is, do they have any other opinion on anything other than the Bradleys? I have yet to see it (oh, except that Mr. Joey Saputo is a shining light of MLS ownership).

    Seriously though, there is no "debate" when people are entrenched in positions and it gets extremely tiresome that every thread gets hijacked into a referendum on the Bradleys.
    Who is they? And I contribute on alot of the topics. I also literally put my money where my mouth is with seasons.

    PS you know I contribute on "other opinions", I gave you my opinion on Zinedine Zidane the other day which you kindly gave me a "touche" on.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    Didn't you post this somewhere else word for word? Lol.
    yeah, ensco posted there too to that post and then deleted it and moved it here. I then copied it here for context as it will get deleted as is a better fit here . Ensco was directly responding to my post in the other thread originally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hala Hrvatska View Post
    Who is they? And I contribute on alot of the topics. I also literally put my money where my mouth is with seasons.
    But almost every topic you comment in will contain something along the lines of "imagine what he thinks of MB making this much $$$" or "He must be pissed having a captain who is the son of the manager". Could be a discussion on a new GK coach and it will always turn into this.

    Also he got blame for USMNT 2018 because he was captain but he was also DM. He didn't hoof that own goal (Omar) or float around and fail to do anything against T&T (Jozy).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    But almost every topic you comment in will contain something along the lines of "imagine what he thinks of MB making this much $$$" or "He must be pissed having a captain who is the son of the manager". Could be a discussion on a new GK coach and it will always turn into this.

    Also he got blame for USMNT 2018 because he was captain but he was also DM. He didn't hoof that own goal (Omar) or float around and fail to do anything against T&T (Jozy).
    Come on man, no that's not true. I get you are a Bradley fan, and all the power to you, post what you like.

    I love football and discuss all topics related to it and the team (am a seasons ticket holder). And THIS thread is specifically a MB thread, if we can't talk about him here, then where can we?

    I get he is a polarizing topic but Leeds is the one that made the "conspiracy" thread which revived this thread, so lets talk about him and bb here and keep it respectful always. CHeers.

    Hey, I was not boo-ing him and JA for the US DNQ, it was American fans everywhere we went that did that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hala Hrvatska View Post
    Come on man, no that's not true. I get you are a Bradley fan, and all the power to you, post what you like.
    I'm actually not. I'm just fair. I think he should do the Cheyrou role and I have been saying that for 2 years now but I get why he hasn't.

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    There’s an argument for MB not being on the roster anymore and it’s based in MLS nuance.

    His salary is majorly disproportionate to his value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    There’s an argument for MB not being on the roster anymore and it’s based in MLS nuance.

    His salary is majorly disproportionate to his value.
    True but it wasn't when he signed it and there's others who fall into that same category (Mavinga, Bono, & Akinola come to mind). His deal is his deal and I can't see a buyout happening even if BB wasn't the manager so it's a moot point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hala Hrvatska View Post
    Who is they? And I contribute on alot of the topics. I also literally put my money where my mouth is with seasons.

    PS you know I contribute on "other opinions", I gave you my opinion on Zinedine Zidane the other day which you kindly gave me a "touche" on.

    Cheers.
    I can appreciate a good comeback!

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    There’s an argument for MB not being on the roster anymore and it’s based in MLS nuance.

    His salary is majorly disproportionate to his value.
    Couldn't agree more. Not to mention the father/son captain dynamic is bad all around (IMHO).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    I can appreciate a good comeback!
    Appreciate it. You are far too kind. )

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    It is kind of important to separate love or hate for posts, and not extend that to posters. Pretty much everyone here has said incredibly insightful things, and dumb things. Sometimes in the same post. There are 20 or 30 really informed posters here, and they all bring something to the table (frankly, a hell of a lot more, collectively, than we get from other media)

    I have found I have never really held a grudge here, and nod at things appreciatively that someone is saying, where I thought the same person was being a bozo the day before.

    I also kind of get confused about who exactly said what when. So I deliberately don’t pay a lot of attention to who exactly said what - but I do recognize posters, and read those who I know have some history of being smart on TFC. It's a cumulative thing.

    I do think I see trolling sometimes. Not that often. I agree with efforts to call that out, it's just boring and disrupts the flow. I think sometimes the people doing it don’t realize they are doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    It is kind of important to separate love or hate for posts, and not extend that to posters. Pretty much everyone here has said incredibly insightful things, and dumb things. Sometimes in the same post. There are 20 or 30 really informed posters here, and they all bring something to the table (frankly, a hell of a lot more, collectively, than we get from other media)

    I have found I have never really held a grudge here, and nod at things appreciatively that someone is saying, where I thought the same person was being a bozo the day before.

    I also kind of get confused about who exactly said what when. So I deliberately don’t pay a lot of attention to who exactly said what - but I do recognize posters, and read those who I know have some history of being smart on TFC. It's a cumulative thing.

    I do think I see trolling sometimes. Not that often. I agree with efforts to call that out, it's just boring and disrupts the flow. I think sometimes the people doing it don’t realize they are doing it.
    Yep... cause...

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