there is a ridiculous amount of room around Downsview and that general area. Office/industrial park buildings can be easily and cheaply demolished. The condos are pretty much just clustered around Downsview Station. And we musn't forget that there will be a be new subway extension going to Sheppard East (the bendy part of Sheppard), Finch West, York University, Steeles, and into vaughan
This is not a witch hunt out of nowhere.
I'm not beyond acceptance if I'm presented with a groundshare system that works. This isn't difficult to appease us fretting over pitch quality. Tell us a specific example (brand) in use for a season and we can find out how reliable it is.
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I don't believe that. I think it's just talk. The NFL let their own "historic" franchises abandon cities if the money is right.
Far more important to the NFL is an individual owner rather than a corporate owner. And that individual has to be someone who can bring in huge amounts of government money. Even the NFL knows that its billion-dollar cost to get eight home games a year would never get approved by a faceless board of directors.
If Lieweke couldn't get a team in LA, what are the chances he can get one here? So let's hope he really can make it so that during a TFC game we have no idea that a CFL team has played there the week before.
One point on the lines thing- I know there are lots of Jays fans here. How often during Jays games do you notice football lines? I don't think erasing the lines is a big problem if the teams want to do it. Seattle doesn't want to do it, fair play to them. But they aren't an example of anything, they made a conscious decision to leave the lines on the field. Tim L is saying they'll be removed, and it doesn't seem like that is hard to do
I just don't see how the field holds up. TFC needs a soft, fairly lush surface. The Argos need a firm/fast one. And as has been pointed out ad nausium, CFL football is tougher on a pitch than rugby is because of how localized play is. 1 game at Wembly is hardly the same thing (and it's not like the soccer teams love the pitch there either)
Serious I don't know the answer to question: is there any indication that outside of the forums of supporters groups that people following TFC are aware of, let alone focused on, the Argos to BMO issue?
Has the good feelings of two weeks ago gone? Or is the discussion of BMO and the Argos a within the bubble thing?
How is that though?
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Oh they wanted to do it and they always try to, but in that case there simply wasn't enough time.
"Removal" isn't always what it's being pictured as. We can see that in other MLS stadiums. Sometimes you simply can't get all the crud off the grass so they literally paint over the markings with green so the damage is less noticeable for soccer.
Proposed elsewhere by someone else was the point that the NFL wanted San Diego moved and not a new LA team. Looking at it from that point of view I'd guess it's more likely the Bills move here than the Chargers or Raiders move to LA.
Just a possibility. I don't follow the sport myself.
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Shopping messages definitely, but spinning? As in being deceitful or misleading? How so?
I don't buy all of the things he's put out there about this situation but I do think he's being honest. I remember reading some comments here before speculating that all his talk of signing big name DPs and Defoe was just an act to increase TFC's media coverage and whatnot. Turns out it wasn't.
Doesn't seem like the type to me. He's a pretty straight shooter from what I've seen.
And they want the Colts in Baltimore. And the Rams in LA. If it helps people think these companies have some other interest besides money, fine. None of their past actions have supported that belief.
So what's stopping a Toronto NFL team? Why hasn't it happened yet? Every city that wanted an NFL team - either expansion like Jacksonville and Carolina or that lost one like Houston, Baltimore, Cleveland - got one. All they had to do was find an owner the NFL would accept to put up the money. LA hasn't done that and Toronto hasn't done that. Why not?
The markings can be removed, it just takes them time to basically power wash the stuff off and repaint. But that's only the case for pure turf, grass doesn't respond as well, which is where the green paint comes it.
Regarding the condition of the surface: to clarify, I'm talking about a situation where the solution has worked and the environment is comparable (football, overlapping schedule, lots of games). If you can think of one, please fire away.
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It was talked about extensively the last time Toronto made noises about an NFL team. I don't know if I could even find the old articles about it, but the NFL did not want to be seen as damaging the CFL. The solid existence of the CFL is beneficial to the NFL. It gives players a place to play and keep their skills up, it gives players a place to make a small living, CFL players do make the leap into or back into the NFL.
anyone know how the whitecaps get on playing at the same time as the lions?