Formations
Well with us acquiring almost all that TL promised aside from officially getting Defoe I'd like to see what your lineups are.
Sub: Konopka, Morgan, Agboss, Lambe, De Rosario, Weideman, Dike
Could also see
Sub: Konopka, Morgan, Agboss, Lambe, De Rosario, Weideman, Dike
What do you see as our potential lineup?, even without Defoe Dike would be his position replacement, for the 4-4-1-1 id switch dike and Gilberto
I think we'll be playing Nelsen's preferred 4-4-2, like your first formation.
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What about a 4-3-3 with Gilberto-Dike-Defoe as the forwards and Rey-Laba-Osorio as the mids? DeRo would be a super-sub and Jackson/Hall/Bekker/Lambe would be replacement midfielders.
Dont think Osorio will be starting quite as often so theres less pressure on him to develop, think youll also see DeRo play on the wing (dunno if he'll replace Jackson or vice versa)
DeRo does whatever he wants so technically you can toss him on either wing or in the center of midfield pushed up and of course at either forward spot. He probably won't do what Nelsen draws up on the play board but he can play DeRo Ball anywhere.Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth
As of right now
-------------Bendik
Bloom-Caldwell-Henry-Morrow
-Jackson--Laba--Osorio--Rey
--------Dike------Gilberto
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I thought I read/heard Gilberto doesn't mind the box whereas Defoe plays a bit off it.
Wouldn't that lend Gilberto as top man in the second formation?
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I am going to bump this thread since we have a lot of moves and interesting options for opening day 2014.
-------Defoe------------Gilberto------
Osorio-----------Bradley-----------Rey
--------------Laba--------------------
Morrow----Henry----Caldwell---Jackson
---------------Bednik-----------------
If Laba doesn't stick around.....
----------Defoe------------Gilberto---------
----Dero----------------------Rey---------
--------Osorio----Bradley----------------
Morrow----Henry----Caldwell---Jackson
---------------Bednik-----------------
So many different questions here I don't know where to begin.
- Does Dero start?
- Where does Jackson play?
- Who plays RB?
- Do we pick up another winger or use Osorio out wide?
- Is another DM in the cards if Laba has to be loaned out?
I don't think Jackson is a right back and I think we'll see some competition for the the side mid/wing spots. DeRo can play on the left, so can Osorio. Rey and Jackson fighting for the right? Morrow and Morgan fighting for the left back role, with Morrow likely winning.
I think we'll play with Nelsen's flat 4 across the middle. Either Laba + Bradley, with Laba in the defensive role, or if Osorio + Bradley, it'll be Bradley. Defoe in a second striker role and Gilberto as centre forward?
It's nice to have some options. And our backline could still use a bit more help.
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Don't think the 1-1 stack makes sense up top. From everything we've read these strikers aren't really the type to combine, so why put one in a position to be fed by the other?
When defending one will definitely drop back further, but when attacking I'd think they'll be side-by-side. Both looking to get on the ball and attack defenders.
If Laba stays, and you have both Laba and Bradley sitting in front of the defenders, I don't think we're going 4 at the back now. We are still very weak at the back. You wouldn't want or need to have two of Henry , Morgan, Bloom or Richter out there, with a strong defensive MF in place.
I'd wager it'll be a 3-4-1-2 or similar, with Jackson as one wingback, and Rey or Lambe as the other. Something tells me Lambe could be very effective as a wingback, with the better support he'd be getting.
We would now have a little depth at forward and in MF, and even with 3 at the back, two of Dike, Dero and Osorio won't start. If we get a decent fullback in somehow, to go with Caldwell and Morrow, then I think we can be a playoff team.
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I wish Nelsen hadn't given a complete non-answer to the question where DeRo would play. I'm really curious about that.
Lambe might work at RB with Bradley and Laba in the middle. I still don't think Nelsen is going to vary from his 4-4-2 (or 4-4-1-1), but Laba as the holder and Bradley as the box to box would mean there would be less pressure on the fullbacks. If Laba goes and Bradley becomes the more defensive of the middle pairing with Osorio, for example, then you need fullbacks that are stronger defensively and Lambe might be more exposed.
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Bloom over Lambe -
Far better positioning
Gets ahead without losing his head
I thought Caldwell trusted him more.
Nelsen talking now...let's see if he spills any beans.
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I can't see Nelsen going with anything but a back four. Wouldn't surprise me to see some changes upfield, but something other than a flat back four? I don't see it.
Not much but sounds like he'll be used strategically. Don't think he'll be a regular starter.
All very good points.
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just get lambe off the team. rather push morgan ahead to the midfield lol
Lambe's going to have a good season. Mark my words!
I think a diamond midfield would work to get DeRo on the park with the DPs.
--------Gilberto----------Defoe---------
(Dike, Wiedeman, Hamilton, Welshman, De Rosario)
-------------De Rosario-----------------
(Bekker, Osorio)
--------Rey--------------Jackson-------
(Hall, Lambe, Osorio, Bradley)
---------------Bradley------------------
(Hall, Morrow)
-Morgan---Henry-----Caldwell---Morrow-
(Agboss, Bloom, Richter, Elmer)
- We can play narrow, possession based game where we dominate the middle.
- We have attack minded full backs to push forward and provide the width
- We have mobile center mids which is essential for a diamond.
- Bradley becomes a Beckerman-like player linking the mid to the defense and pushing forward at times.
- DeRo gets on the pitch in a position he's familiar with. Can stay more attack-minded too.
Last edited by PopePouri; 01-10-2014 at 09:50 AM.
M formation for now is a basic 4 4 2
Bendik
Bloom Henry Caldwell Morgan
Rey Osario Bradley Dero
Gilberto
Defoe
I know this very basic but I know it will be different come opening day...
Assuming TFC is keeping Laba, and it sounds like Tim B is working on this,
--------------Bendik
Bloom--Henry--Caldwell--Morrow
--Rey--Bradley--Laba--Osorio
---------Defoe---Gilberto
Subs
Konopka
Agbossoumonde
Jackson
Hall
De Rosario
Bekker
Wiedeman
Best 18 right now, and still got 2 months till first game.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Forgot about Dike?
Oops.
Hope Dike stays, but loan for him sounds like happening.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Solid lineup, but you forgot to add Morgan.
Wow, the way we're forgetting to add these substitutions - you'd think TFC actually had some depth now or something...
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think DeRo/Jackson start ahead of Oso
and i see dike was touched upon, but if you don't think Dike is going to be here, i don't think laba will either
not in my best 18
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
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