Is DeRo the first TFC player to come back after leaving? I'm thinking so.
Is DeRo the first TFC player to come back after leaving? I'm thinking so.
I hear you....Originally Posted by Canary10
Look who you're talking about, though...
Dero is a health NUT; i heard he's a vegan, and does protien shakes and the whole 9 yards
Defoe is lauded for being exceptionally fit and does not drink or smoke - which seems to be a rarity in UK football, because it's all anyone ever says about him over there -
I think if you were to take on a 30+ player, these are the types you do it with - just be sure to have depth so you can give them the occasional day-off and you're fine
True, both he and his brother are vegan, although on doctor's orders he has occasionally supplemented with a little fish.
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Glad to see he's coming back.
Agreed on the depth part. He missed games due to injury last year, despite his "nut status"
This is going to sound like an over the top statement but I'll say it anyway.
DeRo to TFC is like Lampard is to Chelsea.
A key player that can be used for 60-70 mins as a starter or as a 20 minute sub. Glory days are likely behind him but capable of making a difference at a key moment in a game. Definitely not the future but can have immediate impact provided the fans don't have overly high expectations.
That said, if a young player emerges that surpasses him on the skill chart, I really hope that we don't default to DeRo for nostalgia.. or ticket selling purposes.
I don't know man, the first game he plays is going to be rough emotionally. Glad he is here.
Most professional athletes eat and train well these days. However no diet will stop the degenerative joint problems due to the cumulative effects of training and playing at a high level for 20 years. His tendons and ligaments will be more brittle and loose, osteoarthritis in the hip and knee joint is well underway, recovery will take longer, soft tissue injuries will be more frequent and last longer and it goes on. Nothing - not diet, hyperbaric chamber, deer antler spray or training regimen can roll back the odometer.
As an aside - I find the best masters (40+) athletes tend to take their 20's and 30's off - less mileage.
The only TFC player to score more than 10 goals in the regular season. 11 and 15. Welcome back.
Koevermans 2012, just saying....
he had 9 didn't he?Koevermans 2012, just saying....
opps, yup i was wrong, i got mixed up with "GS" game started with "G" goals. So yes Koef had 9 and Dero is in fact the only player that scored 10+ goals for Toronto
I find it funny that people equate being a vegetarian with health nut/being in good shape. The fact that he puts a lot of time into working out, staying in shape is what makes him a health nut, not being a vegetarian.
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from 2012 season....
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Rose tinted glasses.
Lets see him prove some of us wrong. Would love it. Until then, enjoy the hyperbole based on nostalgia and wishful thinking.
i love some of the negativity about this pickup. Let's remember what kind of a team this was last season. We were garbage. Complete and utter shite. It's not like bringing in Dero is done at the expense of an established producer. This team needs to get better all across the board. Osorio is still going to be the mainstay same with Laba, but now you have a proven and effective player in Dero who is here to help out. He won't be worked into the ground like Frings was.. he'll be played in the right opportunities - whether it means as a sub or as a spot starter. This move is a low risk high reward move on the pitch alone. Off the pitch it's an even better move what with the emotional exorcism it brings, but still on the pitch it makes a lot of sense too.
...and for what it's worth, your average non-cream donut is vegan. So are chips and beer.
However, in my experience, most serious adult vegetarians are very health conscious.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
Again....its $200K+ that could be spent in many different ways. That's a bit of risk.
I hope it works. Having seen him last season, I have my doubts he's worth that much.
It better not be guaranteed.
Diet does play a part to an extent, but Colin Samuel was a health food nut also and didn't do him any good. I saw him in The Brazen Head one night eating a veggie burger with side salad.
Veggie burger with 100% mayo, topped with onion rings.....side salad with a nice creamy think ranch dressing.
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The point is really that in comparison to his peers this guys is noted for keeping himself in excellent shape. So we're not just taking about an athlete in general here, it's an athlete that goes beyond what most athlete do to prepare and stay healthy.
The vegetables are just a distraction.
Totally agree on all the above points, except the low risk part. The worry from the negative camp (including myself) is that his attitude will take away from what seems to be a cohesive club moving in the right direction. Hell, have we ever had even a 50% complete roster before March? Forgetting the shenanigans with TFC management for a moment, DeRo has proven a few times to be temperamental when he was the star, and also when he's one of the top wage earners. Will he fit in and play nice now that he's neither?
That's my concern.
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How "low risk" it is, lies entirely in the terms of the contract, which we don't know yet. If he ends up making $300k a year guaranteed or something, that is not low risk.
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It's occurs to me that Dero's goal scoring effectiveness will be connected to the number of free kicks he gets.. as I recall nearly half his goals for us were from free kicks and PKs.
On the pitch he will likely help spread the defence out a fair bit. Over all he will likely not have a load of assists (he is still DeRo), or goals (I'd be surprised if he gets 3 game goals) but I'm willing to bet more goals happen while he is on the pitch. If that happens even if his Goals are 0 and assists are 0, if his presence makes it easier to score goals it's worth it. And most important if he rubs off on Osorio and Laba it is worth it.
bwahaha.Veggie burger with 100% mayo, topped with onion rings.....side salad with a nice creamy think ranch dressing.
Pie is also vegetarian, unless you use lard in the crust.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
In a tightly capped league, everything is done at the expense of something else. That said, none of us have any clue what is actually going on from a salary perspective due to the mystery world of allocations.
Most seem to be assuming that DeRo will flop as well and be a waste of money. It might go exactly the other way - he might be a sizable contributor. In truth, I suspect he will fall somewhere in between.
A key thing to watch this year is going to be if DeRo adjusts his game like most players around that age need to do.
Keep in mind though that optimizing your diet for health is not the same as optimizing your diet for athletic performance. As a vegetarian, he is actually at a disadvantage (animal protein plays a pretty large role in recovery from athletic exertion). Of course you can work around that (as DeRo does), but it is not going to be as efficient....and for what it's worth, your average non-cream donut is vegan. So are chips and beer.
However, in my experience, most serious adult vegetarians are very health conscious.
Here is a classic example often cited of what I am talking about with regards to health vs athletic performance. This is the sort of diet that Michael Phelps eats
How do we know it's $200K? Do we even know anything about the deal?
I recall Bez being a cap specialist with the league or something. Hopefully that would mean we didn't take taken to the cleaners by Dero and his agent.
Yes, that's exactly my point.
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