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    Milos Kocic is back for good in the city. Do we take him back as a keeper?

    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/form...1893--sow.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcolvy View Post
    Milos Kocic is back for good in the city. Do we take him back as a keeper?

    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/form...1893--sow.html
    sounds like he retired to make more money. certainly more than what you make as a back up GK in MLS.

    and Portland has his rights
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

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    Ecks traded for 2017 4th round pick... buyout used or no?

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    http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2014/01...eckersley-pick

    Ecks to NYRB for 2017 4th rd pick
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

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    http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2014/01...eckersley-pick

    And the Reds got a 2017 4th round pick, how funny.

    Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!

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    The salary cap is intended to be a brake. It's easy to lighten up on that brake initially but the more you do that, it gets more tricky to control it. Eventually a different control mechanism will be needed other than salary cap.

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    So we didn't use buyout unless we traded Ecks MLS rights to RBNY for their 4th round pick?

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    The health care plan deductibles on triplets probably cost him more then his salary would have been in Portland.

    Hope it all turns out ok.


    (Edit: Geez, you think about a post for 3 minutes and suddenly your pronouns have a Burnley boy magically having triplets and being traded to NY instead of Portland due to health care)

    Kosic, of course...not Ecks.
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    If we need a player bought out we can always send the player and a pick to a team who would then end up buying him out, right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pint View Post
    Ecks traded for 2017 4th round pick... buyout used or no?
    I don't think so, but who knows. If he was bought out, I don't think it would be termed a "trade" because Ecks would be a free agent after the buyout. RBNY probably using their own allocation to bring down his contract cost, no way they are paying full fare for him.

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    4th round 2017 pick might be a bag of potatoes, but that we actually got ANYTHING for him on his salary, is a minor miracle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-boy View Post
    4th round 2017 pick might be a bag of potatoes, but that we actually got ANYTHING for him on his salary, is a minor miracle!
    I expect TFC to be eating some, if not a lot of Eck's salary for this season.
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    We may be paying some, but a lot? The sole purpose for the move was cap relief. If we ended up paying a bunch of his salary, there was no point in doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detroit_TFC View Post
    We may be paying some, but a lot? The sole purpose for the move was cap relief. If we ended up paying a bunch of his salary, there was no point in doing it.
    Agreed. Ultimately we should be trying to clear as much space as possible right now in order to keep Laba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Agreed. Ultimately we should be trying to clear as much space as possible right now in order to keep Laba.
    Cap space isn't the issue with keeping Laba, it's having enough allocation to pay down his salary. So if we got allocation and free'd up a bit of cap space and an international slot on top of that, it's a bonus.

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    With Eckersley gone could we use a Buy Out on Elmer (would also get a International spot to no?) and take the difference in salary plus some Allc. money and pay Laba down or is that not allowed?.... whats even happening with Elmer $125,000 for a 3rd stringer is Ludacris

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Ronaldo View Post
    nerd moment!
    Hah. Yeah seriously

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waggy View Post
    Cap space isn't the issue with keeping Laba, it's having enough allocation to pay down his salary. So if we got allocation and free'd up a bit of cap space and an international slot on top of that, it's a bonus.
    I would think either way it would help. Once you get under the individual maximum, allocation money or cap space can be used to cover what we need.

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    Unfortunately salary cap isnt used to pay down Transfer fees so no

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    Maurice Edu Joins Philly

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    for anyone who cares

    Wednesday on Prime Time Sports for all 3 hours I believe, TL and the 3 general managers including Tim B in studio. Should be interesting.

    edit- 5pm, so maybe 2 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by Detroit_TFC View Post
    We may be paying some, but a lot? The sole purpose for the move was cap relief. If we ended up paying a bunch of his salary, there was no point in doing it.
    I can basically guarantee you we're paying 50% of it at least. I don't see how you consider it a pointless move though... is paying 50% of his cap hit not better than paying 100% of it?

    The entire league saw Eckersley lose his spot at the tail end of last year, they all saw us sign Orr, they all know Eckersley's contract is ridiculous, and they all know we must be getting into a tight spot cap-wise with all the signings we've made thus far and the Laba situation. We had zero leverage in trading Ecks. If the league allowed straight up intra-league transfers, we'd have given him to New York for nothing and we'd still be eating some of his salary. The 4th round pick is essentially nothing anyways. There probably won't even be a 4th round in 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    My prediction:

    Morrow starting LB, Morgan back up LB. Bloom starting RB, Orr back up RB. Richter as depth fullback in case of injury. Eckersley traded within the league for peanuts, and we eat some of his salary as part of the deal as well. Elmer is bought out.
    Posted this about 10 days ago. Just waiting for the Elmer buyout now (assuming we still have our buyout available, which I believe is the case). Orr will probably end up being the starting RB against Seattle though.
    Last edited by notthesun; 01-27-2014 at 06:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdubs View Post
    for anyone who cares

    Wednesday on Prime Time Sports for all 3 hours I believe, TL and the 3 general managers including Tim B in studio. Should be interesting.
    That's going to be painful to listen to PTS talking about soccer.

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    Bloom starting RB, Orr back up RB.
    Bloom starting RB and Orr is the back up?

    Do you think a guy like Bradley Orr is going to come here on loan to be a back-up?

    Better yet, why would you waste an(other) international roster slot on someone to be a back-up

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    Quote Originally Posted by prizby View Post
    why would you waste an(other) international roster slot on someone to be a back-up
    I wonder the same thing about Reggie Lambe

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0bl1vious View Post
    I wonder the same thing about Reggie Lambe
    big difference between the two is one is young and has 'potential' (in the eyes of management - cuz i certainly don't see it) and secondly, Lambe will be able to apply for permanent residency by the start of the 2015 season (aka he'd be a domestic with that)

    i should also add, i have no problem with international roster spots being used on players with potential (like an Andre Lewis in Vancouver)

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    Quote Originally Posted by prizby View Post
    Bloom starting RB and Orr is the back up?

    Do you think a guy like Bradley Orr is going to come here on loan to be a back-up?

    Better yet, why would you waste an(other) international roster slot on someone to be a back-up
    See my post again, I added that Orr will probably be the starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notthesun View Post
    See my post again, I added that Orr will probably be the starter.
    ahh i see...stopped at "Posted this about 10 days ago."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    TFC is not paying $150k, NY is. So there is not cost to TFC.

    So if TFC gets $1 in allocation, TFC is ahead of a simple buyout.
    I don't think TFC need to save the $150,000 out of their pockets, meanwhile gifting a very good team one of the best fullbacks in the league. Maybe the league had something to do with this, throw NY a bone to shut them up.

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    Let's just say that the utility of the trade diminishes with more of Eck's salary we have to cover. 50% seems about right.

    Whoever is picking up the cost, Ecks is getting another season on high wages, so things worked out well for him.

 

 

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