generally a trade like this doesn't happen, unless the new team has a new contract agreed with the player, or picking up the player's option year on contract or something. Rosales can also choose to opt out of re-entry draft, giving Chivas USA exclusive rights to negotiate a new contract.Originally Posted by notthesun
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
I agree with Ensco. That scares me. (except the Silva trade is a black mark too, IMHO)
The only way this makes any sense for CHIVAS is if he was what they wanted, but they weren't willing to pay him his option amount, and they had legit fears another team was going to take him.
A. You could have taken him straight up on his old salary in the 1st round and sucked up taking him on with an expensive contract to secure your chance to get another piece in the second round.
B. I highly doubt anyone would have taken him at that salary... and if there were rumblings that someone would than Rosales probably wouldn't be signing a contract with Chivas before the 1st round is over (forsure one has been agreed to already)... meaning this is pointless.
You had the first stab at the guy anyways WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS FRANCHISE.
In other news we need to start doing more deals with Chivas.
In return, Chivas USA gave up Tristan Bowen, who I think will end up being a good MLS striker, and 2nd spot in allocation order. Pretty stiff price for soon to be 33 and on the decline Rosales.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
I am actually really considering getting season tickets for the first time too. I received a call a couple years back, but declined. I guess I need to get back on the wait-list? Any clue how that works?
Waiting list is a myth......
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Pretty stiff price to pay for something you could have pretty much had for free. Chivas USA is absolutely useless.
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Gilberto Oliveira Souza Júnior or simply Gilberto (born June 5, 1989 in Piranhas), is a Brazilian striker. He currently plays for Toronto FC of the MLS.
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it's obvious that there were other teams interested in Rosales
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
But you are the top of the order... It doesnt matter other interest..
DC United was above Chivas in the re-entry draft order and other teams could have traded for him.
Weren't they second?
my guess is that Chivas USA didn't want to take Rosales at option year. Or, another team made an offer to Seattle for Rosales's rights
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Chivas almost certainly is very interested in getting another player from the re-entry draft besides Rosales. And obviously they weren't comfortable getting either at their current salary.
They probably gave up a bit too much but it only really makes no sense if they don't pick another sought-after player in the 2nd round of the draft. Trading for Rosales before the draft means they can secure him and whoever their other target is from the draft.
Plus everyone knew Bowen was on borrowed time at Chivas.
This was Paynes approach. Tim L's is big talk big signing. That, and power/ego seem to be why Payne was fired. I'll be cheering Defoe like everyone else, and hoping he isn't hurt like Danny K, but Payne's idea sure seems better in the long run.
Gilardino deal appears to be dead
https://twitter.com/carlolaudisa/sta...16934524600320
Translation: Screeching halt for the passage of the # # Gilardino Toronto at the end of the season. The scorer of Genoa # # GDS can remain in Italy
Looks like it's all Defoe now
According to Neil Davidson on twitter Gilberto is at Leafs game tonight..
@NeilMDavidson
#TorontoFC's Brazilian target Gilberto is again enjoying MLSE hospitality. He's taking in #Leafs game tonight.
I feel like this means TFC either know for a fact Defoe is coming or they have a different DP planned..... last I heard Gilardino was still interested, so this sounds like something on TFC's part
Kelly basically said that the behind the scenes people at TFC/MLSE were getting things set for Dafoe's upcoming arrival and since Kelly is TL's chosen media lackey I would assume he's being fed grapes straight from the vine. No reason to think that this deal isn't already completed and just waiting for January to be announced.
Also much like saying the whole 'wait till he's holding the shirt' thing I will wait until the actual contract specifics are released before going wild about how $50M could have been spent (or saved).
Its true. I just cannot understand how different we looked in the two competitions. ( I for one care more about the Canadian Championship and the CL but I know that I am in the minority)
Absolutely !
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Simply put, the Impact had the third or fourth (I'm going off memory) worst Total Shots Ratio value in MLS last year. Worse still, the TSR number was consistent all year. They didn't slump in second half. The stats suggested they corrected.
TSR is a very respected stat in the advanced stat world. It's very similar to Corsi for hockey fans here.
I'll post the league numbers on CSN sometime soon. I have to check numbers and its time consuming.
Yes, TFC was God awful by measure in case you were wondering.
Any way that both Defoe And Gilardino could be coming??
this is a very good point , every soccer site ,many international papersI read, has mentioned TFC AND in every Spurs game TFC is mentioned as pursuing Defoe , this will up TFC's image everywhere , which can't hurt .
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Zero chance. Our three DPs will be Laba, Gilberto, and one of Defoe/Gila with Defoe being the preferred option (and most likely to sign).
Cathal and few others tweeting 1pm TFC news conference tomorrow...
It is one of life's great mysteries...
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