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Onstad might be paying for the Forlan information flow.
We better get a decent scouting team developed out of this. New guy has to work on that.
How is Bierne not let go?
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
Your comfort with the o'dea contract shows your bias. You are really comfortable with o'dea counting more against the cap than a DP? It has even been suggested in some reports that his salary approached $600k. No offence to O'dea, but that's just unacceptable for MLS. It shows a clear mismanagement of the cap issues.
Also, with regard to mariner's record, you point out that he had an inherited team. I will point out that the bulk of Mariner's wins came with the inherited team (first few games when he took over). As soon as mariner put his stamp on the team, their play and record spiralled.
Back to topic, no one seems to be discussing Kelly's point that a number if players were available during the transfer window but were ignored because KP had blinders on for 2 specific players. I think that's also kind of telling. Anyway, I think this move was readily apparent during the meeting so no big surprise. Nelsen got a lot of support, so his job is safe at least for now. And for the record I didn't have any pork, but the wings were really delicious.
How about trading our first round pick for Hassil? Andy Iro, dero for a bag of balls etc...
darren o'dea making 500k...
excersely?? making 300k plus
terrible cap management and arguably the most useless GM and or coach. He lived off his days as a player...
plus he is a backstabbing drunk
And there you have it....
So CSN is reporting that Onstad and Cochrane are both going to be fired as well?! Hopefully there's more heads rolling.
I know! That escalated more quickly than expected.
Peter Wilt on the shortlist? Wow, talk about return from exile. Not sure how I'd feel about that other than he'd be a great person to improve the rapport between the club and the supporters. Dave Sarachan sounds interesting, but I'd rather poach someone else's experienced GM. Maybe Oscar Pareja can be convinced to jump ship yet again. That's how you do a damn rebuild.
Sad that nobody from TFC took in the game. Looking at this years draft it seems that some teams have NCAA scouting down and some don't. Some teams picked up multiple players and others just let usable assets slip through their hands.
Yeah, it's amazing how long Cochrane manage to survive in management. I wonder if Paul B is next to be let go.
What's going to happen with coaching staff? I highly doubt guys like Jimmy B who don't really have anything speical to offer is going to survive under Lewieke. Maybe Nelsen will be gone in the off-season?
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Interwebz saying Kreis and Lagerway are both in the final years of their contracts
Anybody have a goat we can sacrifice? Edit: it appears Kreis is out of contract but Lagerway has one year left.
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I think I predicted Onstad back on page four, lol. He's cleaning house. I think he probably likes Nelsen's leadership and attitude, so there's nothing to be gained by firing him now. If the new man isn't impressed, he'll do the dirty work for Lieweke before the next season starts.
It's Lagerway he wants, I imagine. He turned over Olave and the (admittedly overrated) Espindola. Kreis got the most out of Plata, though, which wasn't happening in Toronto. We'd probably be better off with both. But the onfield stuff here seems to be making some progress; to me, it's an issue of strengthening personnel, which we could do better than by going after Forlan. There were far more realistic targets that would have had as much or more impact.
I'd also add the one thing to fear is that he'll go for what he thinks is the easy answer and hire Yallop, because of his winning history in the league. MLS is evolving rapidly, and both the style of play and players to get with it; Frank is yesterday's guy, on recent evidence.
Fine. I might have been harsh. I don't agree with you, but if I'm wrong, I'll gladly eat crow. I think Leiweke's going to shake things up and bring in whoever he needs to make this organization a success because that's whet he does.
ok. My apologies if I misread your sentiment. I do t agree with you on this issue and I am willing to wait and see what a proven championship MLS CEO does with our team.
I understand the frustration, but again, TL has a proven track record. He's not Tom Anselmi and MLSE hasn't had an executive like him in charge before. I think his ego requires winning, which isn't a bad thing. Maybe I'm wrong and you and Eugene can tell me "I told you so" in a couple of years and I'll admit it, but I don't see this house-cleaning as a bad thing, necessarily.
Toronto FC baby...best team everrrrrrrrrr -Jozy
Also, if Cochrane is out, then this is a huge step forward
Toronto FC baby...best team everrrrrrrrrr -Jozy
Fingers crossed he goes looking for an experienced personnel man. If the guy he gets wants tactical control as well, it'll be the end for Nelsen. But if he finds someone who's art is the deal, not the final product, we'll be fine. So who's the best at landing a deal in the league? I'd have to say Lagerways is up there. Sarachan's more of a coach, I think. He might think Clavijo in Dallas is a pickup, because he's helped them sign some good young S.A. talent, even though he was a bust at Colorado.
Maybe he goes outside, ala Schallibaum.
What did I miss?
Top, mid or bottom level house cleaning is just another step sideways to me.
Personally, I have run out of excuses to renew.
1) Year One prices......Year one product.
2) Friends will be at the game..... No they won't.
3) Live football!.....Kill me, please.
Clavijo has done relatively ok at Dallas as GM. horrible coach though.
there are few really good GMs TFC should be looking for. I think TFC can rule Arena out. I think Arena is after CCL crown, and LA is his best chance of doing that.
Hanauer wants an MLS Cup, and he's got rather cushy job in Seattle. Peter Vermes gets results, but apparently is a prick to deal with, plus he's got good thing going in SKC.
So that leaves Lagerwey at RSL, who apparently has 1 yr left on his contract.
Unless there is some dark horse candidate out of the blue... It's got to be someone who understands MLS 3.0 and shares Leiweke's vision of a team laden with DPs
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“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
this parody twitter account has some good lulz
https://twitter.com/KevinPayne_TFC
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano