Today's News, Thursday, July,18

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Reds Topped By Chivas


Toronto FC lament inability to break down shorthanded Chivas USA, missed penalty...


Torres scores in second half as Chivas USA beats Toronto FC


Chivas USA beats Toronto FC to snap 14-game winless streak


Short-handed Chivas USA defeats Toronto FC








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SUNSHINE

[CoachGT]

One year ago today was TFC's last win at BMO Field.

[DOMIN8R]

I never took you for a romantic, Gary. You remembered.......

[CoachGT]

Not having seen any of the post game interviews, I expect the following:

Nelsen - we were unlucky......poor refereeing, we should have had (insert foul, card, penalty, whatever) called.......we were dominant......our guys worked so hard and didn't get a result..........the fans deserve better.......reinforcements are coming........

[WestStandGeoff]

^^^^
Yeah, it was poor referring - that we actually benefited from for a change with that soft red card on Avila. Shouldn't be using that excuse after yesterday's loss!

[Stouffville_RPB]

Went to bed last night around the 60th

Woke up and I've got to say I wasn't all that shocked to see that TFC lost to a horrible 10 man Chivas.

[Futbolista]

losing to a ten man Chivas...we are now officially the worse team in MLS.

[TOBOR !]

On a night in which his team lost to a Chivas USA side that played with ten men for more than an hour, Toronto FC head coach Ryan Nelsen expressed his belief that the sending off ultimately ended up working in favor of the team that was penalized.

HA ! TWAT ! I love quotes like this... lucky for us Chivas didn't have any more players sent off then.

[CoachGT]

HA ! TWAT ! I love quotes like this... lucky for us Chivas didn't have any more players sent off then.

To me, this quote indicates failure from the coach. Against a squad that doesn't score often ( 17 goals in 19 games) in front of an empty stadium, a man up for 65 minutes, temperature in the mid 20s and you STILL can't pull of at least a draw? No adjustments, no urgency, no response. 65% possession and you still lose the vast majority of duels (1v1 or 50/50 balls - 60/40 Chivas)? This falls squarely at Nelsen's feet.

[tfcleeds]

I'm sorry, but the honeymoon is officially over for Nelsen if it wasn't already. I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt going into this season, but you would think he'd start showing the odd flashes of managerial brilliance that Payne obviously detected in him if he was really the long-term solution. Even Jason Kreis in his rookie season as manager probably wouldn't have lost to a 10-man Chivas, and even if he did, he wouldn't have offered up such pathetic excuses.

[DOMIN8R]

^^^^
Yeah, it was poor referring - that we actually benefited from for a change with that soft red card on Avila. Shouldn't be using that excuse after yesterday's loss!

Absolutely. Avila's red card was unjustified. And, as Nelson indicated, it only served to help Chivas.

Perhaps, we should strive for more red cards?

[ensco]

I'd go easy on Nelsen. It's not like Morgan and Bekker are his first choice players.

I think with Silva we would have found a goal last night. There was no last touch from anyone ex Osorio.

[CretanBull]

I don't say this in defense of Nelson at all, but we have a horrible team that is (once again) in transition and rebuilding. We're not getting out coached or out maneuvered, we're playing against teams that are more talented/experienced than we are.

[Oldtimer]

Who would you pull off the bench to make TFC produce better? What were Nelsen's great options?

I'm afraid TFC will stink until the replacement players arrive.

[MarkEightThree]

Here's the MLSsoccer.com interview with Nelsen:
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/articl...missed-penalty

His quotes were similar to what Coach predicted, but I think he knows TFC really shit the bed with this one and the usual go-to liners wouldn't work. Even when he was pressed about the missed PK call he admitted that they were pretty much already given a break by the ref and that made it even.

[MarkEightThree]

I don't say this in defense of Nelson at all, but we have a horrible team that is (once again) in transition and rebuilding. We're not getting out coached or out maneuvered, we're playing against teams that are more talented/experienced than we are.

That's just it. We were getting tons of opportunities in their half, but how much more can Nelson do? Tell Morgan not to be so terrible at crossing? Or Braun to be better at finishing?

[TOBOR !]

Who would you pull off the bench to make TFC produce better? What were Nelsen's great options?

I'm afraid TFC will stink until the replacement players arrive.

maybe, but then all Nelsen is going to do is what Mariner did, sans short pants : Fill out the squad list.

Better players are bound to get better results, however, unless we uncover a young Johann Cruyff we're going to require some tactical nous on the sidelines.

[tfcleeds]

I fully realize Nelsen can only work with what he's been given - his excuses are just starting to wear a little thin, is all.

[maninb]

I don't expect us to win another game for the rest of the year......EASILY the WORST TFC side EVER!!!!

[Super]

I reserve my judgement of Nelsen and Payne till the end of the transfer window. We're easily 4-5 players away from being competitive, so let's hope that we get those new players we so desperately need. 2 DP players that will immediately lift the team (see effect by Laba) plus 2-3 solid players (all starters) on top of that. Could make a world of difference.

[HuTor]

<! ironic mode on --->
Lol, I didn't even know that Chivas snapped a 14 game winless streak by beating us.
Very well done TFC, excellent, we should feel proud because we have a hearty, caring, compassionate team... they always help the poor, the fallen ones... too!
<---/ ironic mode off !>

WTF? Will the shitshow ever end?
Koevs said last year we're the worst team in the world, well we're not too far from that title this time around either...

No question that TFC is the worst ever team in the MLS history, and this title will be impossible to be taken away considering any teams' any random 7-8 year period in the league.

[Fort York Redcoat]

I expect a change before the next game.

[HuTor]

I reserve my judgement of Nelsen and Payne till the end of the transfer window. We're easily 4-5 players away from being competitive, so let's hope that we get those new players we so desperately need. 2 DP players that will immediately lift the team (see effect by Laba) plus 2-3 solid players (all starters) on top of that. Could make a world of difference.

Very true, but since the inception of the franchise we always were short of 4-5 players from being competitive, plus a coach at the coaching level of those 4-5 players playing level.
Maybe we'll have this year the players... but we'll we have the coach?
Is Nelsen the man? I have serious doubts at this point...

[Chevy]

Who would you pull off the bench to make TFC produce better? What were Nelsen's great options?

I'm afraid TFC will stink until the replacement players arrive.

I think we have gone through this cycle maybe 14 times? Offseason + Summer Window x Seven Seasons?

[Super]

Very true, but since the inception of the franchise we always were short of 4-5 players from being competitive, plus a coach at the coaching level of those 4-5 players playing level.
Maybe we'll have this year the players... but we'll we have the coach?
Is Nelsen the man? I have serious doubts at this point...

He's gaining experience right now. It's like training any new employee at any place, you have to allow them a period of time to get things right. Personally I prefer to hire experience, but that's somehow against MLSE policy.

[Oldtimer]

I think we have gone through this cycle maybe 14 times? Offseason + Summer Window x Seven Seasons?

The question is, is Payne more qualified than Anselmi/Mo/Earl to make it different this time? I think he is.

[pdogg]

The question is, is Payne more qualified than Anselmi/Mo/Earl to make it different this time? I think he is.

I think his knowledge of how to construct a team and work within a salary cap makes him immensely more qualified than any of the other GMs we've had before.

[tfcleeds]

Well, Nelsen sure wasn't kidding when he said prior to the KC game that "the next couple of games could be a little rough".

[TearsForCheers]

I'd go easy on Nelsen. It's not like Morgan and Bekker are his first choice players.

I think with Silva we would have found a goal last night. There was no last touch from anyone ex Osorio.

Well I look at it this way - of the 11 players started yesterday, 8 have come in since Nelsen came on board (Bendik, Boss, Caldwell, Laba, Russell, Convey, Earnshaw, Brockie), so if the team just isn't good enough, his hands are all over it.

[TFC07]

I'd go easy on Nelsen. It's not like Morgan and Bekker are his first choice players.

I think with Silva we would have found a goal last night. There was no last touch from anyone ex Osorio.

Silva with his current form wouldn't score a goal either.