I know lots of people here don't like friendlies, but all this vitriolic "it's an insult" and "team first" stuff sounds a tiny bit childish in a year that the competitive implications of playing a midseason friendly are zero.
I know lots of people here don't like friendlies, but all this vitriolic "it's an insult" and "team first" stuff sounds a tiny bit childish in a year that the competitive implications of playing a midseason friendly are zero.
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
True. I think more people are insulted that one of our major execs doesn't know who Penarol are. I mean, it's not like they should be scouting in this hemisphere or anything...Originally Posted by ensco
Maybe he's a Nacional man?
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
Frankly, I don't care if he doesn't know where Penarol is.
What I care about is that he WANTED to be quoted saying that.
Its unprofessional, elitist in a dumb jock sort of way and, just as importantly, not helpful when were are trying to develop relationships all over the world to bring in decent players.
Do something like that once, you should be talked to, with the meeting documented.
Do it more then once, you'd be given a letter.
Do it 3 times and you're out the door.
It boggles my mind that people like that can keep jobs.
^ It's true the lack of knowledge and respect isn't helping our cause to bring in international players.
It's frustrating, but I'd like to think prospective players have better things to do than read quotes from Paul Beirne regarding friendly speculation.
"I had to look up who Peñarol were,” Beirne said.
We should start a stupid Beirne quotes thread.
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For sure but things like this and the mismanagement of these players when they come here doesn't help. Have to think that players talk and if they have a bad experience somewhere they make it pretty clear to guys.
Fair point.
Well, at least we have the training ground
I still have mine from last year
#SilverwareNotFriendlies
Remember the aston villa friendly in 2007?
Remember Ronnie O'Brien getting injured?
Remember him not being the same player he was after?
Remember him taking an early retirement a year later after a season at San Jose?
it is a meaningless midseason game thats potential costs heavily outweigh the benefits.
We had 10 guys go down that year. I blame the plastic for that.
They are not 100% bad for the team. Friendlies are good for locker room morale.
You don't build ships to keep them in the harbour. You put them out to sea. Sometimes for good reasons with valuable cargo, sometimes empty, on a stupid repositioning trip.
Sometimes they sink. You can't overthink it.
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
I usually am on the same not friendlies but silverware bus. However this year were not doing anything, no CONCACAF, no playoffs. It's a write off year. I'd be okay with a friendly.
However I think there also missing the boat in terms of making a splash. It's a year were we are struggling to find fans to park there butts in the seats. This is the year if anything they should be looking to bring a big big club here. Ie United, City, Bayern, Juventus, Barca. Ect.
I know a friendly with a big club wil bring that clubs fans and we all hate that, however it might attract new fans to the MLS. Very doubtful if at all this works.
Hey @mlsintoronto ; You asked about Penarol :
from this site : http://labandaizquierda.blogspot.ca/...ruguay-la.html
From Wiki :
Club Atlético Peñarol (Spanish pronunciation: [kluβ aˈtletiko peɲaˈɾol] ( listen); English: Peñarol Athletic Club) also known as Carboneros, Aurinegros and familiarly as Manya, is a Uruguayan sports club from Montevideo. Founded as Central Uruguay Railway Cricket Club (CURCC) on 28 September 1891, the club changed its name to Club Atlético Peñarol in 1913. The name Peñarol comes from the Peñarol neighbourhood, located in the outskirts of Montevideo.
Throughout its history the club has also participated in sports such as basketball and cycling. However, it has been almost exclusively dedicated to football, a sport in which Peñarol has achieved great recognition.
Peñarol holds the record for the most professional Uruguayan Primera División championships, with 37 trophies. Likewise, when considering those won under the name of CURCC, it is the club with the most Uruguayan championships in history, having won 47 amateur and professional trophies. In addition, Peñarol won the Uruguayan championship of the Federación Uruguaya de Football in 1924 and the cup of the Consejo Provisorio (Provisory Council) in 1926, giving it a total of 49 Uruguayan Primera División championships.
In international competition, Peñarol is the club with the third most Copa Libertadores, having won it five times.The club was the first to win three Intercontinental Cups and holds the most titles in said competition. In September 2009, Peñarol was chosen the Best Club of the 20th Century by the IFFHS.
Please do a bit of research next time you plan on speaking to an audience.
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As always, it's perspective. I think it more important to finish as high in the league as possible. You do not. You are not alone.
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I'm with you. I had no idea who they were until I came into this thread. And to be honest, I couldn't give a single fuck about who they are now that I do know who they are.
The only time I will maybe bat an eye at them is when/if they ever face TFC in a meaningful game.
As for friendlies, I could care less about them and will not go to this one either.
Does anyone even know if this is even happening or if it's just a reserves match before readying the anti-friendlies banners? Fuck maybe we should protest the MLS Reserves league too, you know, because giving our mostly unused subs and senior academy members minutes against decent competition is ruining our playoff push
MLS likes mid season friendlies, so its going to happen.
My issue is we should put this in our field, not the Dome.
Beirne confirmed that, if a friendly does happen this year, it will be at BMO. He left it open to return to Rogers Centre for other friendlies down the line.
So much unconfirmed...Does anyone even know if this is even happening or if it's just a reserves match before readying the anti-friendlies banners? Fuck maybe we should protest the MLS Reserves league too, you know, because giving our mostly unused subs and senior academy members minutes against decent competition is ruining our playoff push
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you going to play the reserves for 90 minutes against a big club #doubtfulDoes anyone even know if this is even happening or if it's just a reserves match before readying the anti-friendlies banners? Fuck maybe we should protest the MLS Reserves league too, you know, because giving our mostly unused subs and senior academy members minutes against decent competition is ruining our playoff push
I didn't know who they were either until this came up...
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
Why protest a friendly?
It's one thing if it's 2009 and the Reds may have missed the post-season because of a stupid friendly.
In 2013 playoffs are out of the picture. Why not enjoy a decent team coming here (or at least their reserves)?
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
Principle.
For some there is more to the season than post season.
I'd love to see friendlies outside of the season.
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I don't mind friendlies either. I quite enjoyed the Liverpool game last year. Also travelled to NYC to watch the Red Bulls play Tottenham. The Red Bulls had a meet and greet for their season ticket holders with the Spurs players the day before (which we were allowed into despite not being Red Bulls season seat holders because of a really friendly front office guy who wanted to make sure our visit there was a good one). I can tell you the thousand or so Red Bulls SSH who got pictures and autographs with Gareth Bale weren't that concerned about the extra game. And the game itself was really enjoyable. It's a great way to give something back to SSHs if done properly (ie. not forced into the ticket package, and an opportunity for autographs).
There are two reasons why I'm not concerned about it. One, MLS is a minor league. The league still has a lot to do to attract football fans who view the EPL or another league as their primary league. Getting them into BMO Field to watch a high level club is a good idea if it can convert some into TFC fans. Two, we play way less games than a typical European side. MLS is supposed to be a physical league with players who are athletic. Well an extra game isn't an extra burden for professional athletes with professional trainers and physio. That's my view.
Can't say I'm too bothered about us playing one friendly, given the fact that we have virtually nothing to play for. If we were in the CCL again, I'd feel differently.
Less games with a smaller squad. It evens out IMO.
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Chelsea played like 60 games last year. Squads aren't that much smaller.
I can understand on principal being opposed, but in terms of fitness, etc I don't see it. Especially without the Champions League games.
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If it is a club I am interested in and the price is right for my seats I will go. If not then whatever... Like some are saying, we aren't in a playoff race or in the CCL or anything and they are not playing on turf risking added chance for injury from that so I don't see an issue personally. Not being in the CCL this year I am going to miss not playing clubs from other leagues so may be fun to see. It's nice to see different teams with different styles in person.
Chelsea isn't the average. I still think it evens out. Agree to disagree.
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