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    Default MLS Expansion announcement late May-early June!

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/soccer/s...-league-soccer

    This will be big news. A second team in NY? Florida? Who will be team #20?
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    Both the expansion and the Cosmos questions were questions I asked.

    Garber originally said 2-4 weeks but then he was corrected by Dan Courtemanche that it would be 6 weeks so look for it after 4 weeks, most likely.

    As for the Cosmos, Garber said no, but it does sound like it will be a second new york team, just under their own brand.

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    Can somebody explain what's going on with the NASL to me? On their site they list 12 club crests but there are only 7 teams in the standings

    http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=13

    The cosmos have only 10 players (including 3 former TFC) listed on their wiki page (I know, not reliable) and yet the organization was resurrected almost 3 years ago.

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    the NASL site has the crests for future teams as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinUtd View Post
    Can somebody explain what's going on with the NASL to me? On their site they list 12 club crests but there are only 7 teams in the standings

    http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=13

    The cosmos have only 10 players (including 3 former TFC) listed on their wiki page (I know, not reliable) and yet the organization was resurrected almost 3 years ago.
    NY Cosmos - fall 2013
    Puerto Rico Islands - fall 2013 (took some time off to reorganize)
    Ottawa Fury - 2014
    Virginia Cavalry - 2014
    Indianapolis - 2014

    NASL has a spring and fall season (kinda like Apertura and Clausura)
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    I'm betting on a 2nd NY team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmenJBX View Post
    Both the expansion and the Cosmos questions were questions I asked.

    Garber originally said 2-4 weeks but then he was corrected by Dan Courtemanche that it would be 6 weeks so look for it after 4 weeks, most likely.

    As for the Cosmos, Garber said no, but it does sound like it will be a second new york team, just under their own brand.
    The Cosmos would have been the most ridiculous name in the league other than the Galaxy.

    Keep it simple if you ask me. New York City FC.

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    where is NY2 going to play?
    for some reason I thought Flushing was mentioned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagner View Post
    where is NY2 going to play?
    for some reason I thought Flushing was mentioned?
    Yep.
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    How upset would Orlando be if they just got the go ahead and the cash for a new stadium only to be pipped by a NY club with zero current supporters and no place to play. It isn't even as though there has been discussion recently about where NY2 would play, it would really be out of the blue.

    I got it New York City Blues SC.

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    Orlando won't be far behind. I don't think it's going to take that long for us to reach 24 clubs (which is my guess for their optimal league size, home/away vs conference (22) and once vs other conference (alternating home/away each season) (12)...34 games)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    Orlando won't be far behind.
    If they go that way, wouldn't they want to do something like Orlando/Miami/Tampa simultaneously, to make it more viable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfitz View Post
    If they go that way, wouldn't they want to do something like Orlando/Miami/Tampa simultaneously, to make it more viable?
    I don't think so. Orlando has a very healthy market and don't need no other 'rivals' to prop it up.
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    But where would they put the teams? Assuming that NY2 is a given at some point, and that Orlando is going to get the nod in a few weeks, they would need a twelfth team in the Georgia/Carolinas area to provide teams up and down the east coast. Houston could then go back to the Western Conference and the West could add a team to Phoenix/Las Vegas/San Antonio in the Southwest and a team in the Dakotas/Minnesota area to provide the needed market saturation they desire.

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    Man City owners interested in NY2?

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/t...ef=twitter.com

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    Hmmmm, all the signs I'm seeing all point to a second New York team, but with the Red Bulls still only averaging around 17,000 a game, is that a sort of market a new owner believes will support another team?

    All said, I do like the fact that it won't be the Cosmos and will squeeze that team out even more, which is great in my opinion, because it's still a cardboard club in my eyes.
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    http://www.soccerbyives.net/2013/04/...expansion.html

    Citeh owner to bid for NYC team? And expansion fee rumoured at 100 mil. Jeez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cashcleaner View Post
    Hmmmm, all the signs I'm seeing all point to a second New York team, but with the Red Bulls still only averaging around 17,000 a game, is that a sort of market a new owner believes will support another team?
    In 2009, it was a major pain in the ass getting from my hotel in Long Island City to Giants Stadium. I've seen some stuff saying this new team will be in Flushing, that's about 30 miles from Harrison, and triple the distance that I had to travel. From what I know of people in NYC, Harrison and Flushing are 2 very sperate markets.

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    Can they just move Chivas to NYC?

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    CUSA might be in play, just not right now. Bazillionaire Carlos Slim is in negotiations to buy CD Guadalajara (incl Chivas USA). Current owner Jorge Vergara wants an insane amount for the CUSA piece, $100 million. I would not be surprised if Slim tries to remove that from the deal or if he talks down the price, to turn around and try to cash it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaahuuu View Post
    my hotel in Long Island City
    The Fairfield Inn on Van Dam street?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmenJBX View Post
    As for the Cosmos, Garber said no, but it does sound like it will be a second new york team, just under their own brand.
    its hard to think with all of the press, publicity and history behind the cosmos that the organization has would just be left to fizzle in the NASL.

    anyone know specifically why they're starting from scratch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest Ripoff View Post
    The Fairfield Inn on Van Dam street?
    No, the Holiday Inn at 39th Ave & 29th St

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    MLS has registered the domain NYCFC.com

    http://thesoccerdesk.com/mls-registe...fc-com-domain/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whoop View Post
    MLS has registered the domain NYCFC.com

    http://thesoccerdesk.com/mls-registe...fc-com-domain/
    Bye-bye Cosmos, hello NYC FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by __wowza View Post
    its hard to think with all of the press, publicity and history behind the cosmos that the organization has would just be left to fizzle in the NASL.

    anyone know specifically why they're starting from scratch?
    I really don't think the Cosmos want to bite the $100 million expansion fee. They've got their own separate plan for a mall/stadium complex completely separate from what MLS is trying to push.

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    Charitably, they feel they have marquee value and can elevate NASL to be a top league aside (while officially below) MLS. Uncharitably, they believe their own hype and think they will attract all the soccer folk who reject RB (and presumably whoever NYCFC is) and therefore don't need MLS and all their stupid rulez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkEightThree View Post
    I really don't think the Cosmos want to bite the $100 million expansion fee. They've got their own separate plan for a mall/stadium complex completely separate from what MLS is trying to push.
    Quote Originally Posted by Detroit_TFC View Post
    Charitably, they feel they have marquee value and can elevate NASL to be a top league aside (while officially below) MLS. Uncharitably, they believe their own hype and think they will attract all the soccer folk who reject RB (and presumably whoever NYCFC is) and therefore don't need MLS and all their stupid rulez.
    good points, although speculative. you'd think if they really cared about the franchise though, they would want to compete in the top tier of north american soccer.

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    Since this thread was about a new NASL team in Ottawa, the Ottawa Fury logo, released today, is:



    http://www.ottawafuryfc.com/
    TORONTO FC, 2017 MLS CHAMPIONS!!! (Still the greatest in league history!)

 

 

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