What's going to happen to Chivas?

[prizby]

this is exactly why they shouldn't be focusing on team #20 being in NYC...especially when the Shite Bulls can't sell out

[Super]

[nfitz]

this is exactly why they shouldn't be focusing on team #20 being in NYC...especially when the Shite Bulls can't sell out

Though the Bull isn't in NYC. Sure, it's not a far ride from lower Manhattan at their new location ... but it's still quite the haul from Queens, Brooklyn, or the Bronx. NYC can handle a team.

[ag futbol]

I don't know, i think it is difficult to have 2 teams in the same league in any city sport in this country and exspecially difficult for a Soccer team as it is not the biggest sport over here. And again LA seems like a big city but it is spread out over a large mass area, it is not like New York where there is a huge population in a small area.

It's a competitive sports market, but soccer is very popular. Traffic being what it is in southern California, if you place a team in a different end of the city you'll get a different group of people. Similar to New York, there's still subculture depending on which area you are in.

It's not exactly a centralized place, so this is sort of a bad comparison, but..... the distance between HDC in Carson and the Staples center which is downtown is approximately 24km. In Toronto terms that's comparable to the ACC from the hershey center in Mississauga, but it's even worse when you consider average travel times and that traffic in LA can be hell on any day of the week and public transit is completely awful. Population wise, half the population of LA is still twice the population of San Diego. And that would amount to being a top 5-6 market in MLS. Demographic wise, it's also more diverse than San Diego. Club Tijuana tends to vie for the attention of a lot of football supporters in the city, so it's not like the market is completely vacant.

I don't think they're crazy for wanting to be in LA. They just have to get to another area of the city that's currently under-served. San Diego isn't a bad option, but it certainly has drawbacks as well.

[prizby]

Though the Bull isn't in NYC. Sure, it's not a far ride from lower Manhattan at their new location ... but it's still quite the haul from Queens, Brooklyn, or the Bronx. NYC can handle a team.

look where tfc fans come from...brantford, hamilton, niagara, barrie, oshawa, kingston, ottawa etc...

[nfitz]

look where tfc fans come from...brantford, hamilton, niagara, barrie, oshawa, kingston, ottawa etc...

It's New York though ... it's a different planet down there. I can't fathom the anti-New Jersey vibe I get from people down there ...

To be honest though ... I wouldn't be travelling to BMO Field every week from most of those places ... Hamilton and Oshawa maybe ...

Do the Hamilton Tiger Cats get many coming from Toronto? They draw more people than the Argos on average. Well, every CFL team drew more people last year than the Argos - except Montreal. Maybe it's not just about the size of the market ...

And Chivas attendance is certainly not about the size of the market, or 2 teams being in the market.

[Redcoe15]

Chivas aint leaving LA. I think Garber made it clear he wants two LA clubs.

With Garber wanting badly a second New York team, pulling CUSA out of LA would send a bad message out there.

Of course, if they have to move, my choice would be St. Louis, a longtime soccer market with deep roots in the game.

Any reason for the Tucson or Phoenix not to have a team?

As I understand it FC Tucson has a pretty decent following for a PDL team.

I am not neccesarily saying that they should have the NEXT team, but maybe after Orlando.

If MLS has an eye towards Arizona, it'll be Phoenix and not Tuscon, which is too small for their liking.

[Auzzy]

Exactly. Imagine if they set up a team for Canadian expats somewhere, and called it the Impact!

Well, if the team was modeled after the Impact, it would barely have any Canadian players...

[prizby]

It's New York though ... it's a different planet down there. I can't fathom the anti-New Jersey vibe I get from people down there ...

To be honest though ... I wouldn't be travelling to BMO Field every week from most of those places ... Hamilton and Oshawa maybe ...

Do the Hamilton Tiger Cats get many coming from Toronto? They draw more people than the Argos on average. Well, every CFL team drew more people last year than the Argos - except Montreal. Maybe it's not just about the size of the market ...

And Chivas attendance is certainly not about the size of the market, or 2 teams being in the market.

was in New York a couple years ago; got around on transit real easy. even to brooklyn/queens

[Rudy]

A failed experiment. There has been, according to some people, no publicity at all for the team. Some of there supporters groups have disbanded. They have no local English language TV coverage.

Although moving would be a good thing, most other venues would be more expensive to rent.

I think MLS will pull the plug on ownership after two more seasons. New owners will probably move the team to another part of the suburbs.

So true. I was in Boston in October, and wanted to pick up NERev shirt or anything for my son, and not one store knew what i was talking about. No one downtown Boston stores, or even sports store had any NERev merchandise, or hardly even knew what NERev were.... they looked at me like I have two heads!!,

[West220Side]

Uh-huh but did any of you know Eva Longoria is Chivas USA's biggest fan? Fan base.

[dutch]

""But being named Chivas is the worst tho, that keeps even Mexicans away from who might support Club America, Atlas, Pachuca, Cruz Azul exc who probably hate Chivs and would not support a team called Chivas and owned by Chivas in Mexico""

I never thought about that. what a massive mistake, even if they move. theyre named incorrectly for the demographics of the area
only a millionaire could be this thoughtless and egotistical lmao

[james]

look where tfc fans come from...brantford, hamilton, niagara, barrie, oshawa, kingston, ottawa etc...

ya but the average person would not travel from places like Niagra, Barrie, kingston, and ottawa to go to TFC games on a reguler basis, only a diehard fan might do that. Which is a small amount of people.

Also in New York City driving is alot different, something like only 1 out of 4 people own a car compared to here where almost everyone seems to own a car. There most people take the transit, the transit system is much, much bigger then our system.

[james]

So true. I was in Boston in October, and wanted to pick up NERev shirt or anything for my son, and not one store knew what i was talking about. No one downtown Boston stores, or even sports store had any NERev merchandise, or hardly even knew what NERev were.... they looked at me like I have two heads!!,

He was talking about Chivas USA, but New England does also need to move. Well they need to move into Boston to have any chance of improving the attendence and not playing out in Foxborough 43km away from the city in a town wih a population of 16,000 people in a 70k Patriots stadium. A name change in New England also wouldn't hurt to rebrand this team.

[prizby]

ya but the average person would not travel from places like Niagra, Barrie, kingston, and ottawa to go to TFC games on a reguler basis, only a diehard fan might do that. Which is a small amount of people.

Also in New York City driving is alot different, something like only 1 out of 4 people own a car compared to here where almost everyone seems to own a car. There most people take the transit, the transit system is much, much bigger then our system.

which is more of a reason why they should be able to make it

[ryan]

He was talking about Chivas USA, but New England does also need to move. Well they need to move into Boston to have any chance of improving the attendence and not playing out in Foxborough 43km away from the city in a town wih a population of 16,000 people in a 70k Patriots stadium. A name change in New England also wouldn't hurt to rebrand this team.

Bob Kraft gives no fucks, he only has this team to use Gillette when the Patriots aren't using it.