And I'd rather have young talented players with upside who can contribute both in short and long term instead of bunch of journeymen players who can't stick with a team more than a year.Originally Posted by Canary10
And I'd rather have young talented players with upside who can contribute both in short and long term instead of bunch of journeymen players who can't stick with a team more than a year.
It's not a bad idea to be careful with academy players... the point can be made that bringing up players not ready for the show won't really help them too much. For every Henry, Morgan and Osorio there is a Makabuya and a Cordon... best to err on side of caution... Bekker and Welshmen will be good players, but they'll need time too. Even as depth, they aren't getting minutes because the coaches are being careful with them. So if these guys aren't getting minutes, an academy propmated player probably won't get any either - best to stay in the academy and at least get some competitive games and focussed training
He played at one of those while he was also at Notre Dame. Two in Europe when he first turned pro. Then KC and now a trade here.
And trials don't count.
He is an incredibly typical struggling professional American player. A journeyman he is not. 10 years from now you are more than welcome to slap that label on him.
By your standards, pretty much the vast majority of MLS players would be considered 'journeymen'.
Sounds like Terry Dunfield without the 150k pricetag.
He tried his luck in Europe before coming back to MLS. Generally only fairly decent players will try to make that jump. At KC he has a pretty stacked midfield to compete against. You really don't know how good he is at this point.
*insert Jim Mora "Playoffs?" video clip here*
MLS teams loaning players and having partnership deals with USL clubs, I think situation for academy players will improve eventually. I just feel bad for Makabuya and Cordon who didn't really get a chance to show what they can do especially end of last season when Mariner was coaching the team.
He's a cheaper and younger Dunfield.
Given he's label as a depth player, I except he isn't good at all. Since he's past his development stage and entering his prime isn't good news for those who want quality team with quality depth. He's an useless signing in the end. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets cut sometime next year to make room for younger players coming from college or academy.
That's not good news. Dunfield is an awful technical and athletic player.
The problem with our academy players / green new signings right now is that despite having a higher ceiling than this guy, they provide less immediate impact on the field. TFC is pretty much incapable of providing the environment they need to further their careers.
What we need to do is to send people out on loan similar to what the whitecaps have done with their best academy players.
... but a kind of depth player that can help a tired midfield. I think we can all agree this does nothing to improve the technique of the squad - it's a depth, move plain and simple. You believe there are better options for cheap, domestic depth, and some will beg to differ. Agree to disagree, i guess
Might be an up and comer in the field of architecture, but Legendary Terry he is NOT!
Ya, this should help. Alot. Would kinda suck when a new player comes in, sees the training facility and goes all "Awesome, what a great place to train!" And the KP tells him "Ya, we're loaning you to Ottawa to develop". ouch
Hmmm, an architect, did I see any of his work?
Welcome to the MLS. Every team takes a hit in quality with depth players thanks to the low cap. Fitting in and utilizing these sorts of cheap, domestic utility players is part of being successful in this league.
Great news on caldwell . I expext weidaman to be moved russel will be returned to england reggie lamb will be traded or released. That frees up 2 more intl. Slots and some cash before july 8 th what do you guys think make sense or no
Probably some depth to make up for the Gold Cup losses. Can't really get worked up about a 60k utility player.
Thomas is really a big question mark. Being a SKC reject isn't necessarily an indication of a poor player, considering SKC midfield is really deep. I don't even know exactly what position he plays, though sounds like he can fill in at multiple positions.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Russell has a green card.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
This is an MLS nuance that can't be overstated. If you take a look how Toronto reserves manhandled the Montreal reserves, it's no wonder why Bernier didn't go to the Gold Cup - that team has no-one behind their starters (granted, not the reason provided by CSA). They are a great team at the moment, but also on the backs of some old players - if they get injured, that team could have some massive challenges in the latter part of the year.
Richter is a good example of a depth player that has been asked to fill in and doing pretty much what he's expected to do, which is not anything great. Does he improve the team? No, but he has cheaply filled a void on the team, and hasn't been extremely terrible. He is not a long-term answer, but his short-term presence (and thse like him) is necessary. Even more so if CONCACAF dates start to creep into your schedule.
Cap management is the team's problem... if a team wants to blow all their money on couple of players... *shrug*
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Exactly what I'm thinking. I'm not getting too worked up over this - he'll probably be gone at the end of the season (that is, if he hasn't shown anything).
Frei needs to be moved along with lamb. Maybe a package deal. And since u pointed out that russel has a greencard he should go back to england anyway richter is a backup to eks anyway. Morgan a backup to o'dea . Dont dorget califf needs to go aswell
Nobody in MLS in their right mind is going to take Lambe.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
^^^ Except Dallas
Lamb makes almost nothing but is intl.
RJ not doing so poorly for Portland either. Not being a TFC player can make wonders for ones' career.^^^ Except Dallas
I wouldn't expect anything from Lambe at TFC or elsewhere. What you see is what you get. If any team would take him for anything it'd be a steal.
I saw a promise from him under AW. He was able to compete well with Soolsma ( who I wish was still here ) for a role.
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