YES! Best news in a while, outside of having Payne hired.
I am slightly worried about Nelsen's lack of management experience and am unsure about his knowledge of the league having left so long ago, but Payne does seem to have an eye for management talent with his appointment of Olsen (and it appears Nowak too based on what the article said).
^I am too, to be honest. TFC has never hired anyone with previous senior team managerial experience outside of MoJo's few games at RBNY. But such is my distate for Mariner that I'm glad he's being replaced (and I have tended to advocate stability at the position, so that says a lot).
NEXT: Earl Cochrane!
Last edited by Lucky Strike; 01-07-2013 at 02:57 PM.
Well, this explains Mariner's silence as he must have known something like this is coming for a while.
Ryan Nelsen looks to be Kevin Payne's next Ben Olsen project, except Nelsen has better playing pedigree. Looks to be similar character though. Captains New Zealand and also at DC, Blackburn and was QPR's vice captain. At least Nelsen won't take guff and gives a shit about result in the field, if anyone saw QPR in 1st half season this year when Nelsen was like the only guy who gave a damn on the pitch.
Also, don't expect playoffs this year as KP is clearly looking for rebuilding. He gave Ben Olsen 3 years to make the playoffs, and likely will be patient with Ryan Nelsen to learn the ropes of MLS as well.
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Yep, little concerning about his experience but I think the young managerial candidates bring a lot to the table these days. I really think it's the way to go as opposed to re-treading some MLS 1.0 hire.
The best of the old crop have adapted and still have jobs. The worst have fallen off and it doesn't look like they are becoming more effective with additional kicks at the can.
as per SBI, Nelsen to be named new head coach - Mariner on his way out...
http://www.soccerbyives.net/2013/01/breaking-tfc-set-to-name-nelsen-new-head-coach.html
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@JohnMolinaro: A source just confirmed to me what Ives first reported. Ryan Nelsen has been hired as the new #TFC coach.
Molinaro has tweeted the same.
Wow piss poor move. The guy has no coaching experience. Im glad mariner is on his way out, but this better not be a long term move. I hope we have a true head coach coming, because he won't be the one to lead us long term.
Kreis was a former player and therefore knew RSL intimitely. That's not the case with Nelsen. Also, they obviously took a chance. Have you ever hired people before? Sometimes you'd probably take a risk on a guy with ZERO experience, but would you take that risk every single time? Or do you just not value experience? I'm puzzled by your comment on this thing. TFC have hired inexperienced coaches like 7-8 times, and every time we failed. Now we're trying it one more time. Every single time I hear Peter Kreis' name thrown around as if that proves that experience is not needed to be successful in football. Of course it isn't. But lack of experience should NEVER trump experience - if you can find it.
I've been running a business for the past 10 years I have hired many people and none of them have had any experience in my field. But they have been all people I that I have known and knew what type of person they were. And in this case, Payne knows Nelsen and knows they type of person he is getting. From my experience, that cuts out a lot of the risk.
I trust Payne in this area. As the article points out, he gave Peter Nowak and Ben Olsen their starts.
Several observations:
(1) While I would prefer someone with a lot of MLS experience, clearly no one with experience would come to a club with the reputation of TFC, and TFC's infamy as the "worst club in the world" means that the bad reputation is world-wide.
(2) Payne is clearly now in charge and putting in his own people. He knows Nelsen well, so has a good idea of what he brings to the table.
(3) I expect Paul Mariner to be totally gone. The original plan looked like it was to have PM mentor Nelsen and then PM to be kicked upstairs. I think he didn't go with the plan and now he finds himself out of a job.
I am very pleased with what I am seeing, both in player acquisitions, and (now) with the coaching change.
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I posted in the other thread, but the initial speculation was that Nelsen would come in as a player-coach. Now with this latest development, does that mean he'll focus solely on managerial duties?
I like Mariner out but not sure of Nelsen's coaching credentials. Amazing.
Best. News. Ever.
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I'd rather have the Ikea Monkey running the team than Mariner... wait - they've never been seen together have they ? Hmm... I wonder...
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This makes no sense to me at all, as much as Paul Mariner being fired is a great late Christmas present....
Its party time!!!! I want to go down to BMO and dance naked as promised
Well, I guess I have no choice but to be on board.
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Not suprised.
Good job Payne !!!
Amazing news. they could of replaced Mariner with a 5 year old and they would do a better job with this team than Mariner.
TFC has found a proper footy president, dropped ticket prices back to year one and fired Mariner. Hit all three wishes on my wishlist for the offseason!!
Yep, I am eager to have this confirmed! BTW, would Nelsen still be a player-coach, as was initially mentioned, or would he now solely be in a managerial role? Yes, it's a bit concerning (his lack of experience) but it also is a new direction - at least he's not some retread. That in itself is a refreshing change. If he's half as successful as Olsen's been so far, I'll be happy.
Fantastic news. Brick Top is gone!!!!!
Amazing news. they could of replaced Mariner with a 5 year old and they would do a better job with this team than Mariner.
TFC has found a proper footy president, dropped ticket prices back to year one and fired Mariner. Hit all three wishes on my wishlist for the offseason!!