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    2013 AMWAY CANADIAN CHAMPIONSHIP

    SEMI-FINAL SERIES:
    1st Leg on 24 April 2013 – FC Edmonton vs. Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    1st Leg on 24 April 2013 – Toronto FC vs. Impact Montréal
    2nd Leg on 1 May 2013 – Impact Montréal vs. Toronto FC
    2nd Leg on 1 May 2013 – Vancouver Whitecaps FC vs. FC Edmonton


    FINAL SERIES:
    1st Leg on 15 May 2013
    2nd Leg on 29 May 2013
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    2013 AMWAY CANADIAN CHAMPIONSHIP

    SEMI-FINAL SERIES:
    1st Leg on 24 April 2013 – FC Edmonton vs. Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    1st Leg on 24 April 2013 – Toronto FC vs. Impact Montréal
    2nd Leg on 1 May 2013 – Impact Montréal vs. Toronto FC
    2nd Leg on 1 May 2013 – Vancouver Whitecaps FC vs. FC Edmonton


    FINAL SERIES:
    1st Leg on 15 May 2013
    2nd Leg on 29 May 2013
    I am looking forward to a second road trip of the season to Montreal on May 1. It should be an interesting tourney this year, in which the Reds will hopefully defend their title.

    Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!

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    hold on...despite being RETURNING CHAMPIONS, not only don't we get seeded #1, but we have to play the 2nd leg on the road...what type of bush league competition is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prizby View Post
    hold on...despite being RETURNING CHAMPIONS, not only don't we get seeded #1, but we have to play the 2nd leg on the road...what type of bush league competition is this?
    It's based on league standing now. Frankly, after TFC's performance over the whole year, I would be pretty embarrassed to be seeded above Vancouver or Montreal.

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    I thought the seeding was based on league position.

    EDIT: ^ you beat me to it

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    i realize its on league position, but how many cups base their cup seeding on league position; england they don't, european leagues they don't; in fact you in europe, the returning champion is automatically a #1 seed

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    Quote Originally Posted by prizby View Post
    i realize its on league position, but how many cups base their cup seeding on league position; england they don't, european leagues they don't; in fact you in europe, the returning champion is automatically a #1 seed
    Actually in England there is no seeding. It is all randomly drawn.

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    Pfft who cares about seeding. We will win the damn thing anyway, cant wait for what excuse they come up with this time.

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    is it just me, or does anyone else put the voyagers cup on par if not greater then making it into the playoffs?
    if we make it into the playoffs and lose this tournament i'd be kinda devastated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by __wowza View Post
    is it just me, or does anyone else put the voyagers cup on par if not greater then making it into the playoffs?
    if we make it into the playoffs and lose this tournament i'd be kinda devastated.
    I put them on par as an expectation - I expect us to make the playoffs, and I expect us to win the V-Cup. However, having not gone to the playoffs, it would be huge for us to qualify. And not winning the VCup, I don't remember how that feels

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdogg View Post
    ...it would be huge for us to qualify. And not winning the VCup, I don't remember how that feels
    Quoted for when we inevitably lose our grip on the Cup.

    The playoffs are a holy grail at this point, so qualifying for those would mean a lot more. That said, the Champions League is a bigger tournament and a chance at winning that shouldn't take a backseat to MLS fixtures in terms of player rotation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themodelcitizen View Post
    Quoted for when we inevitably lose our grip on the Cup.

    The playoffs are a holy grail at this point, so qualifying for those would mean a lot more. That said, the Champions League is a bigger tournament and a chance at winning that shouldn't take a backseat to MLS fixtures in terms of player rotation.
    Aslong as we beat Montreal in the cup I don't much care. I'd be willing to lose a simple 0-1 game with youngsters against Vancouver, then make a further MLS cup run then them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by West220Side View Post
    Aslong as we beat Montreal in the cup I don't much care. I'd be willing to lose a simple 0-1 game with youngsters against Vancouver, then make a further MLS cup run then them.
    I don't know. Maybe because the tourney is so quick, I wouldn't get satisfaction from them losing in the finals.

    Looking at other Cups, there are so many rounds, you can get kicked out of the quarters/semis and still feel like you took a significant part in it. The VCup feels like an all or nothing. You either won it or you failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by __wowza View Post
    is it just me, or does anyone else put the voyagers cup on par if not greater then making it into the playoffs?
    if we make it into the playoffs and lose this tournament i'd be kinda devastated.
    Not just you, bud.
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    I look forward to the long and steeped tradition of Vancouver not winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    2013 AMWAY CANADIAN CHAMPIONSHIP

    SEMI-FINAL SERIES:
    1st Leg on 24 April 2013 – FC Edmonton vs. Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    1st Leg on 24 April 2013 – Toronto FC vs. Impact Montréal
    2nd Leg on 1 May 2013 – Impact Montréal vs. Toronto FC
    2nd Leg on 1 May 2013 – Vancouver Whitecaps FC vs. FC Edmonton


    FINAL SERIES:
    1st Leg on 15 May 2013
    2nd Leg on 29 May 2013


    Just noticed you titled it Vcup then added the Amway in the OP.

    Vcup 1st. Whatever "they" want to call it second.

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    Who cares about the seeding I just want to see Toronto knock off Vancouver again hopefully this time in there Barn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuelphStorm2007 View Post
    Who cares about the seeding I just want to see Toronto knock off Vancouver again hopefully this time in there Barn.
    all this means is that we'll have to beat montreal BEFORE vancouver.
    you can't have your main course until you finish your appetizer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by __wowza View Post
    all this means is that we'll have to beat montreal BEFORE vancouver.
    you can't have your main course until you finish your appetizer.
    Even though I still want TFC to knock both teams off especially on there own Home turf..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuelphStorm2007 View Post
    Even though I still want TFC to knock both teams off especially on there own Home turf..
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    If we don't win this, then I hope whoever is coaching is fired! TFC is a true Canadian team unlike Vancouver who are known within CMNT supporters as "anti-Canadian" due to not playing Canadian players while Montreal is just team from Quebec (enough said) . We should represent Canada in CCL not Vancouver or Montreal. *lights the match and sets this thread on fire*

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    We need to make the playoffs never mind this Voyageurs Cup crap. We have won this cup a few times now and what has it done to the image of this team. We have won this thing but we have had crappy regular seasons and have never made the playoffs, due to this fact we have been the laughing stock of the league and the general media even here in Toronto. This organization will only gain some respactability and get people interested in this team again by having a decent regular season and finally making the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoccMan View Post
    We need to make the playoffs never mind this Voyageurs Cup crap. We have won this cup a few times now and what has it done to the image of this team.
    It got us to the semi finals of the CCL, it gut us a sold out match at the Skydome and it got us great wins over our rivals. I could care less about MLS playoffs, I'd rather win the CCL. MLS doesn't care about Toronto or any Canadian team so why should I care what happens in MLS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoccMan View Post
    We need to make the playoffs never mind this Voyageurs Cup crap. We have won this cup a few times now and what has it done to the image of this team. We have won this thing but we have had crappy regular seasons and have never made the playoffs, due to this fact we have been the laughing stock of the league and the general media even here in Toronto. This organization will only gain some respactability and get people interested in this team again by having a decent regular season and finally making the playoffs.
    You know, it is possible for you to state your preference for the playoffs without calling the Voyageurs Cup "crap".

    It's the ultimate supporters trophy, funded by fans from coast-to-coast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudi View Post
    You know, it is possible for you to state your preference for the playoffs without calling the Voyageurs Cup "crap".

    It's the ultimate supporters trophy, funded by fans from coast-to-coast.
    +1 People who don't understand the significance of the Voyageurs Cup should read a little on the history of it. Like the Supporters Shield in MLS, it is a trophy created by supporters at their own expense for something supporters consider important.

    Here is the announcement when it was started:

    http://www.canadasoccer.com/voyageur...onship_article

    Also Soccman, you might consider this trophy worthless, but you only have to look at how the Whitecaps feel to understand that it is important:

    ACC: Whitecaps FC desperately want Voyageurs Cup trophy after near-misses
    http://www.whitecapsfc.com/news/2012...er-near-misses

    The general North American sports fan might only understand league playoffs, and so getting in the MLS playoffs will have more impact on the club, but many supporters in the GTA understand greatly the importance of continental competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudi View Post
    You know, it is possible for you to state your preference for the playoffs without calling the Voyageurs Cup "crap".

    It's the ultimate supporters trophy, funded by fans from coast-to-coast.
    I was under the impression that AMWAY was funding this event. If that's not the case why is they're name on the Trophy? It's just another marketing vehicle for MLSE to sell to mask the shit seasons we've had. I can guarantee that if the league performance gets better, like Montreal, TFC will be using subs during future Amway Canadian Championships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyB View Post
    I was under the impression that AMWAY was funding this event. If that's not the case why is they're name on the Trophy? It's just another marketing vehicle for MLSE to sell to mask the shit seasons we've had. I can guarantee that if the league performance gets better, like Montreal, TFC will be using subs during future Amway Canadian Championships.
    Stop talking about Montreal, I know they're your team, but give it a break. What should I care what strategy they use, and why on earth would TFC follow Montreal's lead? That's ridiculous to contemplate.

    TFC/ML$E has nothing to do with Amway being the sponsor, the Canadian Soccer Association runs the competition and named Amway the sponsor, and Amway's name is not on the trophy, it's on the tournament. The trophy is named after the Voyageurs, which is the Canadian National Team's Supporter Group, it's not the Amway Cup it's the Voyageurs Cup. The competition is older than TFC and has nothing to do with ML$E, except that TFC fields a team in it.

    Your post is wrong in so many ways, it's hard to know where to begin. Maybe take the time to learn a bit about the history of the competition (try Wikipedia) before you start giving your "impressions."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Stop talking about Montreal, I know they're your team, but give it a break. What should I care what strategy they use, and why on earth would TFC follow Montreal's lead? That's ridiculous to contemplate.

    TFC/ML$E has nothing to do with Amway being the sponsor, the Canadian Soccer Association runs the competition and named Amway the sponsor, and Amway's name is not on the trophy, it's on the tournament. The trophy is named after the Voyageurs, which is the Canadian National Team's Supporter Group, it's not the Amway Cup it's the Voyageurs Cup. The competition is older than TFC and has nothing to do with ML$E, except that TFC fields a team in it.

    Your post is wrong in so many ways, it's hard to know where to begin. Maybe take the time to learn a bit about the history of the competition (try Wikipedia) before you start giving your "impressions."

    Well bad news for ya. Unless you can remember the Hamilton Steelers or the North York Rockets, and you've come to watch the pro game under MLSE grip on it in this city, you think the Canadian Club competition is the Amway Cup. As you said you their name in on the Tournament. WHICH is what it being sold. Just as there isn't a person under 30 who calls it the Skydome. The Voyageurs supporters group should have retired the cup when the MLS came to town or donated it to the CSA to be the Men's Amateur cup. It was rather nieve to think that MSLE would give something back in exchange for that history. They are an organisation of takers. Vampires. And thankfully judging by the empty seats today, the soccer moms that everyone here hates so much are the first to turn their backs on them. Maybe you should open your eyes and realize that MLSE has taken you for a chump.

    And thanks, next time I'll use any of the other MLS teams field crap sides as an example when pointing out that Cups in North America that aren't play-off cups, are treated like exhibition games by the corporations that run our pro leagues who like guaranteed dates. That they can pre-sell for months or make part of ticket packages.

    And this is a free country. As such I enjoyed your impressions that your emotional attachement to the past matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyB View Post
    I was under the impression that AMWAY was funding this event. If that's not the case why is they're name on the Trophy? It's just another marketing vehicle for MLSE to sell to mask the shit seasons we've had. I can guarantee that if the league performance gets better, like Montreal, TFC will be using subs during future Amway Canadian Championships.
    It's called the Voyageurs Cup!!!!!!!!!!! Please do one.

 

 

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