so you are basically talking about Marvell Wynne of 3 yrs agoOriginally Posted by trane
he's fixed a lot of his short comings as a CB in Colorado. I wouldn't trust him to lead the defence, but he can play sweeper role pretty effectively.
so you are basically talking about Marvell Wynne of 3 yrs ago
he's fixed a lot of his short comings as a CB in Colorado. I wouldn't trust him to lead the defence, but he can play sweeper role pretty effectively.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
^ I admit I am, I just have a hard time seeing that big of an improvment that I would put him in the midle of the back line. However, I may be wrong, he may have improved enough.
he's been a starting CB for a mid table MLS team for last 3 years, winning an MLS Cup in the process. that's gotta say something, right?
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
But if that's the case, why put him in the draft in the first place unless they have someone better to replace him with or they feel he's being paid too much?
that's just it. Wynne makes about 300k with guaranteed compensation. it's just a cap managing exercise on Rapids part (and likely no other MLS team will sign Wynne at his current wage)
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Gonzalo Segares has reached a new deal with the Chicago Fire
http://www.soccerbyives.net/2012/12/fire-re-sign-segares-to-multi-year-deal.html
http://www.chicago-fire.com/news/201...onzalo-segares
Last edited by gracos; 12-06-2012 at 03:32 PM.
Well, looks like Marvell Wynne and T'Chani have "opted out" of the draft. I am not sure what that means though - that they plan on heading to Europe?
I'd be ok with picking up Hunter Freeman. 2nd reentry draft for him, though - bit of a concern.
Per Ives..
By IVES GALARCEP
Teams hoping to land a quality player in today’s MLS Re-Entry Draft, the first phase of a two draft re-entry process, will find the selection much smaller than what was initially released by Major League Soccer earlier this week.
Several top options have been removed from the initial list, and won’t be available in today’s draft, including the likes of Marvell Wynne, Tony Tchani, Justin Mapp and Rodney Wallace. Others removed from the list include Chris Birchall, Gonzalo Segares, Stephen King, Kyle Nakazawa, Brian Perk, Josh Gardner, Steve Purdy and O’Brian White.
Teams had until 5pm on Thursday to reach agreements with players in the Re-Entry list, making it likely that many of the players now missing from the list agreed to new deals or were made Bona Fide contract offers by their teams. Segares reached agreement on a new contract on Thursday while Gardner was traded to Sporting KC for a second-round pick on Thursday.
The first re-entry draft takes place today, and teams selecting players today must either pick up the player’s current contract options or offer them new contracts close to what their old contracts were. Once this first Re-Entry draft is complete, the remaining players will then be made available in next week’s second phase re-entry draft, where teams can then select players and make them contract offers well below their original salaries. That draft figures to be the much busier one of the two.
Among the more high-profile names remaining on the list are Ike Opara, Conor Casey, Juan Pablo Angel, Ramiro Corrales and Julian De Guzman. None are likely to be selected based on the large size of their recent salaries. FC Dallas goalkeeper Kevin Hartman is another high-profile name available, a player who just might be selected today by a team needing a goalkeeper.
Here is the full list of players available for today’s re-entry draft (the draft order is based on reverse order of the 2012 MLS standings):
2012 MLS RE-ENTRY PROCESS LIST
CHICAGO FIRE
Jay Nolly, Corben Bone
CHIVAS USA
Juan Pablo Angel, Peter Vagenas, Danny Califf, Alejandro Moreno
COLUMBUS CREW
Will Hesmer, Julius James
COLORADO RAPIDS
Tyrone Marshall, Scott Palguta, Conor Casey, Hunter Freeman, Jamie Smith, Ian Joyce, Joseph Nane, Tyson Wahl
D.C. UNITED
Michael Chabala, Maicon Dos Santos
FC DALLAS
Bruno Guarda, Kevin Hartman, Julian De Guzman, Scott Sealy
HOUSTON DYNAMO
Colin Clark
SPORTING KC
Olukorede Aiyegbusi, Luke Sassano
LA GALAXY
Chad Barrett, Andrew Boyens, Bryan Jordan, Pat Noonan
MONTREAL IMPACT
Shavar Thomas
NEW ENGLAND REVOLUTION
Tim Murray, Blair Gavin
NEW YORK RED BULLS
Bill Gaudette, Stephen Keel
PHILADELPHIA UNION
Chase Harrison
PORTLAND TIMBERS
Lovel Palmer
REAL SALT LAKE
Paulo Jr., Kyle Reynish
SEATTLE SOUNDERS
Andrew Weber, Mike Seamon
SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES
Tim Ward, Jean Alexandre, Ramiro Corrales, Joseph Gjertsen, Ike Opara, Khari Stephenson
TORONTO FC
Eric Avila, Adrian Cann, Jeremy Hall, Ty Harden, Andrew Wiedeman
VANCOUVER WHITECAPS
John Thorrington
DAL Kevin Hartman GK 68 $165,000 $185,000
CLB Will Hesmer GK 67 $170,000 $181,000
NY Bill Gaudette GK 65 $60,000.00 $63,255.00
CHI Jay Nolly GK 60 $78,250.00 $78,250.00
PHI Chase Harrison GK 60 $44,000.04 $44,000.04
RSL Kyle Reynish GK 60 $66,000.00 $63,255.00
COL Ian Joyce GK 57 $44,000.04 $44,000.04
SEA Andrew Weber GK 57 $51,996.00 $58,445.93
NE Tim Murray GK 56 $44,100.00 $44,100.00
COL Hunter Freeman RB 63 $105,000.00 $110,792.50
POR Lovel Palmer RB 63 $85,000.00 $96,250.00
SJ Tim Ward RB 63 $65,000.00 $65,000.00
TFC Jeremy Hall RB 60 $100,000.00 $158,000.00
CHV Danny Califf CB 66 $275,000.00 $275,000.00
CLB Julius James CB 64 $100,000.00 $100,000.00
SJ Ike Opara CB 64 $100,000.00 $185,900.00
COL Tyrone Marshall CB 63 $90,000.00 $93,250.00
COL Scott Palguta CB 63 $63,670.00 $63,670.00
NY Stephen Keel CB 63 $65,000.00 $65,000.00
TFC Adrian Cann CB 63 $126,000.00 $134,750.00
MTL Shavar Thomas CB 62 $80,000.00 $94,666.67
LA Andrew Boyens CB 60 $62,500.00 $65,783.33
TOR Ty Harden CB 58 $90,000.00 $98,666.67
COL Tyson Wahl LB 63 $65,000.00 $86,086.67
DC Mike Chabala LB 62 $75,000.00 $83,333.33
SJ Ramiro Corrales LB 60 $173,250.00 $183,875.00
DAL Julian de Guzman CDM 69 $1,863,996.00 $1,910,746.00
VAN John Thorrington CDM 63 $170,000.00 $170,000.00
CHV Peter Vagenas CDM 61 $70,000.00 $85,000.00
COL Joseph Nane CDM 61 $44,100.00 $44,100.00
SJ Joseph Gjertsen RM 61 $85,000.00 $93,625.00
LA Bryan Jordan RM 58 $55,000.00 $55,000.00
TOR Andrew Wiedeman RM 58 $80,000.00 $123,000.00
NE Blair Gavin CM 64 $60,000.00 $80,000.00
CLB Chris Birchall CM 63 $102,000.00 $109,000.00
DAL Bruno Guarda CM 61 $60,000.00 $75,000.00
SEA Mike Seamon CM 55 $33,750.00 $33,750.00
COL Jamie Smith LM 66 $148,992.00 $158,992.00
TFC Eric Avila LM 65 $125,000.00 $158,000.00
HOU Colin Clark LM 63 $105,427.00 $110,427.00
CHI Corben Bone CAM 63 $100,000.00 $161,200.00
SJ Khari Stephenson CAM 63 $190,000.00 $203,333.33
LA Pat Noonan CF 60 $70,000.00 $70,000.00
COL Conor Casey ST 68 $400,000.00 $400,000.00
CHV Juan Pablo Angel ST 66 $350,000.00 $600,000.00
CHV Alejandro Moreno ST 66 $185,000.00 $195,000.00
DC Maicon Santos ST 66 $106,400.00 $113,833.33 Chicago Fire
RSL Paulo Jr. ST 64 $65,000.00 $65,000.00
LA Chad Barrett ST 63 $220,000.00 $253,333.33
DAL Scott Sealy ST 61 $50,004.00 $50,004.00
SKC Olukorede Aiyegbusi LW 58 $44,100.00 $44,100.00
SKC Luke Sassano $81,000.00 $83,025.00
Best 11
GK DAL Kevin Hartman 68
RB COL Hunter Freeman 63
CB CHV Danny Califf 66
CB CLB Julius James 64
LB COL Tyson Wahl 63
RM SJ Joseph Gjertsen 61
CM NE Blair Gavin 64
CM CLB Chris Birchall 63
LM COL Jamie Smith 66
ST COL Conor Casey 68
ST CHV Juan Pablo Angel 66
Bench
GK CLB Will Hesmer 67
RB POR Lovel Palmer 63
CB SJ Ike Opara 64
LB DC Mike Chabala 62
RM LA Bryan Jordan 58
CM DAL Bruno Guarda 61
ST CHV Alejandro Moreno 66
Last edited by gracos; 12-07-2012 at 03:53 PM.
What time is the re-entry draft today?
3PM, unfortunately it wont be streamed but keep an eye on the Twitterverse
A lot of the better players were taken the revised list. As it stands for Phase 1, I'd personally only be interested in Mike Chabala, a 28-year old LB who makes 75K a year, to give depth and/or competition to Ashtone Morgan. Logan Emory has been played at LB, but his customary position is CB. TFC really needs to stop playing players out of position.
take it with a grain of salt, but Gargan has been allowed into the reentry draft Twitter @ChicagoFire
It's official as per team Twitter... TFC passes on their selection.
Round 2 goes next Fri.
Lovel Palmer is also a good midfield option for TFC in my opinion. Also, Paulo Jr. could be of some use considering his salary and TFC having a lack of players that fit his profile and earn small amounts of money.
Looks like we passed on our selection
LukeWileman 14 min ago
Toronto FC passes with its pick in #MLS Re-entry Draft
Chicago fire take Maicon Santos
I am thinking that TFC takes a player next week, if the oversea negotiations continue to stall it will be a good chance to get an acceptable MLS ready player, even for bench depth.
He scores a goal every four and is only 113,000; he has a lot of upside but we saw here how inconsistent he can be. I suppose that's why he keeps moving.
Santos was on the front cover of the DC Utd. program when TFC played there in May (for the record setting 9th loss in a row to start a season). I thought this was a bit cheeky.
O, Maple Leaf around the world, You speak as you rise high above,
Of courage, peace and quiet strength, Of the Canada that I love.
Remind us all, our union bound by ties we cannot sever,
Bright flag revered on every ground, The Maple Leaf forever
Nolly, Jay Bone, Corben Gargan, Dan CHV Angel, Juan Pablo CHV Vagenas, Peter Califf, Danny Moreno, Alejandro Hesmer, Will James, Julius Marshall, Tyrone Palguta, Scott Casey, Conor Freeman, Hunter Smith, Jamie Joyce, Ian Nane, Joseph Wahl, Tyson Chabala, Michael Guarda, Bruno Hartman, Kevin De Guzman, Julian Sealy, Scott Clark, Colin Aiyegbusi, Olukorede Sassano, Luke Barrett, Chad Boyens, Andrew Jordan, Bryan Noonan, Pat Thomas, Shavar Murray Tim Gavin, Blair Gaudette, Bill Keel, Stephen Harrison, Chase Palmer, Lovel Araujo, Paulo Jr. Reynish, Kyle Weber, Andrew Seamon, Mike Alexandre, Jean Ward, Tim Corrales, Ramiro Gjertsen, Joseph Stephenson, Khari Avila, Eric Cann, Adrian Harden, Ty Thorrington, John
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Am I correct in saying that the second round you can re-negotiate the wages and sign them?
A lot of the most interesting names seem to be off the list now tho, unfortunately. There are still a couple of ok depth players at the right price tho.
^ I think there's actually a reasonable number of decent players.
In addition to the ones other people have pointed out I think Lovel Palmer, Hunter Freeman, Mike Chabala, all worth a look
Bring back the gargan!!!!
And then release it!
I'm never overly heen on re-signing former players. I don't think that works very often in football. so that kinda takes half the players off the table, haha!
Maybe take a look at Stephan Keel? He wasn't on much last season, and would be good depth, at least, at CB.
Few thoughts..
Personally id prefer if we ditched Jeremy Hall and had Dan Gargan for rightback depth. He also looked strong in the midfield at times while here.
Looks like from the mlssoccer.com website lots of fans would like Avila on their team. Could be a good asset to have, to bad we couldnt keep him and use him as trade bait. Bet he ends up in California.
Wish we could get players like Connor Casey and Danny Califf in the draft, but we all know they dont want to be here.
Plus Connor Casey, Eric Hassli, Danny Koevermans... Are we building a gang, or a football team.
Dan Gargan was the most hated player by the fans at the end of his time here. Defo a bad idea to bring him back! I remember him being the Number One reason why we were losing games, according to most of this forum!
And Casey, Hassli, and Koev's up front would scare the living shit out of most defenses! Thugs R Us!!!!!
WHAT. THE FUCK. ARE. YOU. TALKING. ABOUT.
Dan Gargan was "The Gargan." He was never hated here. Never. We knew he wasn't the greatest footballer, but he worked hard for this team every time he hit the pitch.
Show me "I hate Dan Gargan thread." Anywhere.
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