Basically if we've dealt Johnson and/or Kocic for a player like Alonso within the league I could see Frings being bought out and released, no? because Payne revealed to SSH's that he didn't want any 'older dps' I don't think the rumor of Alonso to TFC has any legs but if it does Frings definitely wont be starting the season.
Not like Mariner would mind. Dunfield + Frings or Dunfield + Maund was his center midfield over and over again.Originally Posted by Yohan
Anybody who follows La Liga knows this rumour is nuts. Verdu would be Marquez/Henry expensive, but puts no fannies in the seats. Verdu is Espanyol's best player and is still in his prime. He is out of contract end of year and probably needs to go elsewhere if Espanyol goes down. But elsewhere is someplace like Valencia or Schalke, not MLS.
Last edited by ensco; 12-10-2012 at 07:50 AM.
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
So apparently a trade is done, and likely to be announced this week. What's the speculation on who is heading out and who's coming in? Ryan Johnson? Milos Kocic?
The longer it takes the more I can see it being RJ & Kocic for a wad of allocation dollars.
I hope Payne hasnt lied to us fans already about a trade completion wont look good, on our new growth
Heard a rumour that it's Johnson, Kocic to Portland for GK Joe Bendik and allocation money
this would free up 2 international spots for TFC and a lot of cash.
I'm definitely not sure that it will be a GK in return. Why do we need 4 goally's?! I can see RJ and Kocic going, but not for a goally!
RJ does not take up int spot
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
My bad.
Anyways, who are some of the options for the allocation money?
Kocic takes up an international spot? Why we get a goalkeeper in return unless we are getting rid of Hall or Roberts?
I don't think that the trade involves a keeper coming back to TFC. The rumour might be wrong. This trade is about the money we are getting not the goalkeeper.
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The roster is looking a bit ugly regardless if TFC parts with the geriatrics: Koevermans, Frings, and Dunfield.
4-4-2:
-------------------Frei------------------
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Eckersley(I)---X------O'Dea(I)--Morgan
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---------------X----------X------------
Lambe(I)---------------------------X--
--------------Silva----------------------
----------------------Hassli(I)---------
X: It would be nice to fill out the remainder of the roster with Collin Clark(LW), Blair Gavin(MC), Khari Stephenson(MC), and Andre Hainault(DC). Maybe Justin Mapp for good measure on the left wing.
Reggie Lambe.......sigh....
There's a guy there that I hope we've had some contact with over the last few days.
And Dunfield is only 30. Stephenson is older than him.
With a healthy lineup (ie. once/if Koev's is back), this is how I see what we have...
Hassli Koevs
Amarikwa Braun
??? Frings Silva ???
Plata Dunfield ??? Lambe
Stinson
Morgan O'Dea ??? Ecks
??? Henry Emory ???
Frei
Kocic
The way I see it, if we are actually going to be successful, Plata and Lambe cannot be relied upon as full-time starters until they both prove they can play with much more consistency than they've shown so far.
We need to improve on the flanks, especially if the twin towers Hassli and Koevs actually end up playing together up front.
They'll need proper service in.
A guy like Dunfield has great heart and definitely belongs on the team, but should not be relied on as an everyday starter.
Use him coming off the bench when you need some extra grit, start him in CCL games, and use him to give Frings a rest against weaker opponents.
And of course there is still the glaring hole at CB. This is probably the most important area that needs filled ASAP
We also need a secondary attacking CM to play behind Silva, as well as secondary FB options.
So to summarize Payne's off-season shopping list:
Starting CB
Starting LMF
Starting RMF
Secondary ACM
Secondary RFB
Secondary LFB
and probably another Secondary FW as insurance until Koevs gets back.
This is quite the list of needs for one off-season, so we'll see what Payne can do...
(Note: I didn't include Johnson, because judging by the rumours and the fact he no longer has a stall in the BMO dressing room, he won't be back)
Anyone think Hassli is part of this trade?
Did anyone read the Kurtis Larson article in the sun a two weeks ago? pretty interesting stuff.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/11/28...gnated-players
HA! Payne would like to turn us into a model franchise "again"
But at least he actually seems to realize that this club did a lot for expanding Fan Culture across the MLS and he wants to repay us.
Partially TFC related, but according to Ecuadorian press reported that Toronto FC were interested in LDU Quito forward Claudio Bieler: Plays with Joao Plata.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Bieler
Fichajes Ecuador @fichajesEC
RUMOR: Claudio Bieler, delantero centro. Interesa a Toronto FC de la MLS. Actualmente pertenece a #LDU de Quito #fichajes
https://twitter.com/fichajesEC/statu...25582319808512
However, Bieler is signing with Sporting KC. He can score and with Sporting KC. Man, watch out. Have been following this guy for the past couple of weeks.
https://twitter.com/search/realtime?...ieler&src=typd
It looks like a DP signing. Maybe 1.5 million.
I have a hunch TFC came in, but it was too late and they didn't have the money to sign him. Why TFC did you sign Hasli to a DP contract? WHY?
Would have been a perfect striker to play with Plata and Silva.
Last edited by moralis; 12-11-2012 at 06:06 PM.
Mabye hassli will be part of a trade.
Not until Mariner is gone. Mariner really likes Hasli.
Mariner is not above the interests of the club. Who he likes does not matter
I agree. I would like to see Mariner fired. In addition have all three DP's available. 2 DP's in their mid 30's and one in his early 30's. Only player I would like to see TFC get in their 30's is KAKA (he's 30). Watched him play live in the TFC-Real Madrid game. What a at player. We need young DP's and they cost half of what a normal DP is.
I'd like to see us identify regular roster talent first. Maybe one DP to start, but otherwise I'd just like to see us add as many regular pieces as possible. If we get lucky, maybe one of those out-performs and we've already found our DP without having to go far or tie up huge resources at the start.
Benny Feilhaber just got dealt to Sporting KC for a 1st round pick, 2nd round pick and allocation money. TFC have wasted draft picks on a lot worse!!! (1st rounder for Sturgis, 1st rounder for Hassli)
So what happen to TFC's "big" trade that suppose to happen this week? lol Hopefully we hear something tomorrow from TFC.
Last edited by TFC07; 12-11-2012 at 11:46 PM.
I am afraid of the possible trade falling through and Payne was hopeful it would stand, i hope not but you never know
Benny Feilhaber was pretty poor in the time he spent at New England so we'll see how it works out for K.C., maybe not having the pressure of being the main guy will help. New England gets pretty good value considering he wasn't going back there.
He isn't worth the 1st round pick at his salary much less the useless 2nd rounder (who cares) and most importantly the allocation since he is on a bloated contract.
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