TFC 2012-2013 off-season general player moves/speculation/etc.

[Ultra & Proud]

Problem with this young DP thing and from these players being from South America is that it's a massive risk. A young player may never develop here or he may waste the length of his contract developing and then move on thus equaling us wasting a DP spot for X amount of years. Some from SA may not like the style of play and be unable to adapt to it, not too mention the dodgy weather and travel issues. Also young kids form this part of the world always seem to get 'home sick'. Happens a lot. I wouldn't want us risking DP spots on that. If we did the young player DP thing I'd rather it be a player from a league where the play and climate are similar and where the player has legit first team experience against players of a known quality.

[Ultra & Proud]

We haven't tried Latvians yet, I think, so maybe there's still hope for the future...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raivis_Hščanovičs

[Yohan]

Based on past experience, we should avoid South Americans.

Of course, based on past experience, we should avoid Africans, Italians, Germans, Dutch, Eastern Europeans, Brits, Scots, Canadians and Americans. In fact, based on results, we've had crap players from almost everywhere. We haven't tried Latvians yet, I think, so maybe there's still hope for the future...

Raivis Hscanovics is Latvian

[Jpexxx]

Based on past experience, we should avoid South Americans.

Of course, based on past experience, we should avoid Africans, Italians, Germans, Dutch, Eastern Europeans, Brits, Scots, Canadians and Americans. In fact, based on results, we've had crap players from almost everywhere. We haven't tried Latvians yet, I think, so maybe there's still hope for the future...

Your forgetting a special player.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raivis_Hščanovičs

Edit: clearly missed the boat on the correction.

[Auzzy]

Clearly it's time for some Lithuanians & Estonians.

[Detroit_TFC]

Based on past experience, we should avoid South Americans.

Of course, based on past experience, we should avoid Africans, Italians, Germans, Dutch, Eastern Europeans, Brits, Scots, Canadians and Americans. In fact, based on results, we've had crap players from almost everywhere. We haven't tried Latvians yet, I think, so maybe there's still hope for the future...

Ok, well played, sir.

[Yohan]

seems TFC was 'very close' to signing Carlos Bocanegra last summer before it fell through

http://www.soccerbyives.net/2012/12/...ng-injury.html

[tfcleeds]

Bocanegra and Mellberg, eh? Oh, what could have been.

[Ajax TFC]

could have been one fucking expensive back line

[Red I]

could have been one fucking expensive back line

With Cann and Harden not playing, it already was an expensive back line sitting on the bench...

Don't forget about McKenna! I heard he was in talks too, and that fell through.

[Mr. Bigby]

As I mentioned in the seat relocation thread, Kevin Payne and Paul B were at the 12:30 relocation scrum, and Kevin gave an inpromptu talk. Apart from the usual about how happy he and his wife were to be in Toronto, he went on at length about wanting to develop a young, hungry team willing to die for the badge. He said that the days of 35 year old DPs were over, and he mentioned that TFC had completed a trade, but that he couldn't release any details for a couple of days. He and Paul hung around the entire time that I was there, willing to talk to anyone about anything, it seemed. Very refreshing.

[flamehawk]

As I mentioned in the seat relocation thread, Kevin Payne and Paul B were at the 12:30 relocation scrum, and Kevin gave an inpromptu talk. Apart from the usual about how happy he and his wife were to be in Toronto, he went on at length about wanting to develop a young, hungry team willing to die for the badge. He said that the days of 35 year old DPs were over, and he mentioned that TFC had completed a trade, but that he couldn't release any details for a couple of days. He and Paul hung around the entire time that I was there, willing to talk to anyone about anything, it seemed. Very refreshing.

hmm.. I wonder who it could be. What TFC player has trade value? Silva, Johnson, Kocic, ... Morgan and Henry? Hopefully not any of those.

[ag futbol]

Not to jump the gun, but could this be the other half of the trade?

http://www.soccerbyives.net/2012/12/...ely-trade.html

[ManUtd4ever]

As I mentioned in the seat relocation thread, Kevin Payne and Paul B were at the 12:30 relocation scrum, and Kevin gave an inpromptu talk. Apart from the usual about how happy he and his wife were to be in Toronto, he went on at length about wanting to develop a young, hungry team willing to die for the badge. He said that the days of 35 year old DPs were over, and he mentioned that TFC had completed a trade, but that he couldn't release any details for a couple of days. He and Paul hung around the entire time that I was there, willing to talk to anyone about anything, it seemed. Very refreshing.

Thanks for the scoop. I wonder if it's a significant trade...

[ManUtd4ever]

Not to jump the gun, but could this be the other half of the trade?

http://www.soccerbyives.net/2012/12/...ely-trade.html

Good find. I would welcome LeToux at TFC, as long as the asking price is reasonable.

[moralis]

It could be Ryan Johnson being dealt, but I think it will be allocation money for a player.

[gracos]

Le Toux and Hassli = Vancouver East??

[Auzzy]

Le Toux and Hassli = Vancouver East??

Or France West?

[gdg_9]

As I mentioned in the seat relocation thread, Kevin Payne and Paul B were at the 12:30 relocation scrum, and Kevin gave an inpromptu talk. Apart from the usual about how happy he and his wife were to be in Toronto, he went on at length about wanting to develop a young, hungry team willing to die for the badge. He said that the days of 35 year old DPs were over, and he mentioned that TFC had completed a trade, but that he couldn't release any details for a couple of days. He and Paul hung around the entire time that I was there, willing to talk to anyone about anything, it seemed. Very refreshing.

Could they be waiting until after Round 1 of the re-entry draft to announce it?

If a player doesn't get selected in Round 1, does team owning his rights have exclusivity to negotiate a new (cheaper) contract before Round 2 the next week?

(Still trying to wrap my head around how this whole re-entry process works)



OR... Le Toux? Rights to Hainault?

[flamehawk]

Do we really need a striker considering we have just signed Braun? Unless this is a sign that Koevermans is gone - which will be a real shame.

[gracos]

It looks like Le Toux wont be on his way up to Toronto, NYRB and PUFC have reached an agreement

http://www.soccerbyives.net/2012/12/letoux-returning-to-union-after-philly-and-rbny-complete-trade.html#more-20971
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/articl...ephia-martinez

[jloome]

Or France West?

The Western Front

[AlanO]

Or France West?

The Maginot Line?

[moralis]

Looks like TFC are shopping Ryan John to MLS teams:

MLS Transfers ‏@MLSTransfers
Rumor: Toronto actively shopping Ryan Johnson #TFC #MLStransfers

https://twitter.com/MLSTransfers/sta...27205991006209

Could it be that deal that Kevin Payne said earlier today to TFC season ticket holders at the relocation event

[flamehawk]

Looks like TFC are shopping Ryan John to MLS teams:

MLS Transfers ‏@MLSTransfers
Rumor: Toronto actively shopping Ryan Johnson #TFC #MLStransfers

https://twitter.com/MLSTransfers/sta...27205991006209

Could it be that deal that Kevin Payne said earlier today to TFC season ticket holders at the relocation event

That's a real shame. Ryan Johnson has always been one of my favourite players. He was always candid and seemed to really give a shit about the club.

[SamK]

Looks like TFC are shopping Ryan John to MLS teams:

MLS Transfers ‏@MLSTransfers
Rumor: Toronto actively shopping Ryan Johnson #TFC #MLStransfers

https://twitter.com/MLSTransfers/sta...27205991006209

Could it be that deal that Kevin Payne said earlier today to TFC season ticket holders at the relocation event

Its odd, I spoke with him at the end of year party and when I asked where he thought he'd be next year he said most likely England.
I thought it was funny, I've never been a fan of his but he was completely serious.

[ag futbol]

Ryan Johnson is just the square peg in the round hole. The guy has great intensity and battles hard, but I just don't see him as being effective in any spot but as a FW in the 4-3-3.

It's too bad because he clearly has talent, it's just nobody can consistently unlock it. He'll probably end up being another Herculez Gomez, who never finds his groove in MLS but does incredible somewhere else.

[SKB]

I got to chat with Kevin Payne for about 10 minutes or so. Very open and straightforward in his approach and has a well defined plan. It's early but I feel the hiring of Payne was a good move by the club.

[Morlesio14]

Any deets willing to share????

[Soccerpro]

Ryan Johnson clearly wasn't happy this past year.