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    Revert to Season 1 STH prices - Check

    Hire a qualified president - Check

    Replace Mariner - ?


    Oh well, two out of three ain't bad.

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    Watch him keel over with a massive coronary at the halfway point of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie View Post
    the house of payne...start to clean house and i will nenew....make PM head bermuda scout and EC can become there travel agent..
    Love the reference..."House of Payne"

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    Steven Goff of Washington Post says "Payne is going to Toronto"

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    Let's not jump to conclusions. If Payne keeps Cochrane, I would conclude that nothing has changed. I do not care that Cochrane used to work for Payne, it's irrelevant.
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Let's not jump to conclusions. If Payne keeps Cochrane, I would conclude that nothing has changed.
    Those two sentences don't agree with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudi View Post
    Those two sentences don't agree with each other.
    Neither do Ensco and Cochrane...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Let's not jump to conclusions. If Payne keeps Cochrane, I would conclude that nothing has changed. I do not care that Cochrane used to work for Payne, it's irrelevant.
    I wouldn't say that. He was in a much more restricted role in D.C.; he was their PR flak. If Payne had him on his radar there, he would've moved him up there. Given how tied in Cochrane is with the Nats program maybe he just wants to stay in Toronto and will play nice. Might be wishful thinking, but it's possible.

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    Maybe he'll bring DeRo back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belfast_Boy View Post
    Maybe he'll bring DeRo back!
    Stop teasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudi View Post
    Those two sentences don't agree with each other.
    Grammar Rodeo Marshall Rudi, he's referring to pragmatically, not in point of fact.

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    Rudi, touché.


    Let me restate: the history of this owner is that they have often forced people to accept subordinates, and that these subordinates have undermined their bosses and/or been a back channel to Peddie/Anselmi.


    While there is a chance that Payne would really sincerely want Cochrane, I highly doubt it, as Cochrane was a PR flack in DC, and Cochrane has not remotely distinguished himself as a soccer operations guy. There would be a much greater chance that Payne would have been compelled to "see how it goes" with Cochrane.


    I am not paying it forward with these guys any more. It's not just about the "President".They have to prove that they know how to set up the operation properly.
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    I'm too lazy to read through the other pages on this post but I hope Payne is a good hire.

    It reminds me of when TFC picked up Mo Johnston when RBNY was pushing his custy ass out the door.

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    Thank you Belfast Boy for all your work last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damien View Post
    I'm too lazy to read through the other pages on this post but I hope Payne is a good hire.

    It reminds me of when TFC picked up Mo Johnston when RBNY was pushing his custy ass out the door.
    Mo lasted 2 yrs in NY. Payne was President and CEO of DC United since 94. A bit of difference

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Payne_%28soccer%29

    Also a member of MLS Board of Governors
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damien View Post
    I'm too lazy to read through the other pages on this post but I hope Payne is a good hire.

    It reminds me of when TFC picked up Mo Johnston when RBNY was pushing his custy ass out the door.
    You can't go 17 years running an organization without being quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damien View Post
    It reminds me of when TFC picked up Mo Johnston when RBNY was pushing his custy ass out the door.
    Except that in this case he isn't getting pushed out and in fact, those who matter in DC are quite pissed about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    You can't go 17 years running an organization without being quality.
    He's had a revolving door for ownership, and a terrible stadium situation. No question, he is the right kind of guy.

    He won't walk on water though. He stayed with Tom Soehn for a looooong time.
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL-MO View Post
    Thank you Belfast Boy for all your work last season.

    thanks bro, I did it for the children, cause it's all about them!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    Mo lasted 2 yrs in NY. Payne was President and CEO of DC United since 94. A bit of difference

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Payne_(soccer)

    Also a member of MLS Board of Governors
    Two years? He was manager for 15 games, there's really no comparison here (I know you know that). Plus, if this is true, this guy is being hired to do a job he has actually done before - is that unprecedented at TFC?

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    Good, thanks for clearing that up guys.

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    I'd like to thank Craig Forrest for having Tom take the idea under advisement!

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    Great news!. I just hope he gets full immunity to do what he wants, even a guaranteed 3-4 year period to set this organization right.


    If PM is fired along with the entire reorganization of staff, would getting Winter back as some sort of academy director be far fetched?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManUtd4ever View Post
    Love the reference..."House of Payne"
    I'm sure that has never been used before ;P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    If PM is fired along with the entire reorganization of staff, would getting Winter back as some sort of academy director be far fetched?
    You mean get a guy who has no idea how to play MLS football to be in charge of all the players that hopefully will graduate to MLS level one day?

    We did that already. And here we are. Let's try learning from our mistakes for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Let me restate: the history of this owner is that they have often forced people to accept subordinates, and that these subordinates have undermined their bosses and/or been a back channel to Peddie/Anselmi..
    I would hope that there isn't anyone who would sign with TFC without having the written power to hire/fire the management. MLSE has a way of putting themselves in a place where if they want a qualified person in charge, they have to give them full power. Remember the hiring of Burke? They made it clear that he was their one target, so he insisted on being made president so he wouldn't need approval to sign the players he needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    If PM is fired along with the entire reorganization of staff, would getting Winter back as some sort of academy director be far fetched?
    No, he was offered that when he was fired back in may and he declined it. He wants a head coaching job and, according to that Molinaro Article, he's had a few offers. Besides, I'm sure he could easily get an academy job in Europe if he was willing to settle for that

    Edit: By "no" I mean: yes, it would be far fetched
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    You mean get a guy who has no idea how to play MLS football to be in charge of all the players that hopefully will graduate to MLS level one day?

    We did that already. And here we are. Let's try learning from our mistakes for a change.
    Food for thought. DC United have one of the most respected MLS Academies. They live and breathe the Ajax model under Sonny Silooy.

    Winter specifically? Maybe not. But Ajax again? It wouldn't be that far fetched.

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    I think it's a good sign, but I'll withhold judgement for the time being.

    Likes: familiarity with Latin America, long track record, looks like a league directed hire, no direct connection to Mariner, DC has decent academy (not sure if he has much to do with it)

    dislikes: connection to EC, potential that he'll be forced to accept subordinates, etc...

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    I bet TFC gave up the 1st overall pick as compensation...haha!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBBulldog View Post
    I'm sure that has never been used before ;P
    We'll use it with proper reverence, rest assured.
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