'Mariner Out' thread

[Cashcleaner]

TFC shouldn't be trying to sell the playoffs as a target in 2013, let alone putting the shackle of that target on whoever coaches TFC in 2012 (Paul Mariner or otherwise). Playoffs are two years away at a minimum. And if we need two years, they really need to decide if Mariner can build a team over time.

This line of thinking will doom us. The playoffs should be an expectation every season, especially when you consider the fact that at the start of the season, every team has slightly more than a 50% chance of making them before a ball is even kicked.

To be honest, I don't know why you would even consider this to be acceptable after you pointed out in your previous post other teams which had made significant improvements to their record after just one season.

I want to put the job Paul Mariner has in front of him next year into a bit of context. The three biggest point turn around this season over last were, in order:

1. San Jose: went from 38 to 66 points = 28 point improvement
2. D.C. United: went from 39 to 58 = 19 point improvement
3. Vancouver: 28 to 43 points = 15 point improvement

For Toronto to just make the playoffs next year, they would need a 30 point improvement over this year's results (based on the 2012 final table). In other words, Toronto would need a turnaround even bigger than San Jose's this year, just to make the playoffs.

That's a massive task (for any manager). Does anyone honestly believe Paul Mariner is the guy to do that?

This is further proof that teams in MLS simply should not require extensive two or three year rebuilds!

Turning TFC around should be no different. In fact, we must demand it to be so, as MLSE has so much more resources at it's disposal than any of those teams.