Potential new TFC coach - Steven Hart?

[supersaint]

he put our boys to sleep and let them boss themselves....and we saw the disgusting results.....I was always exasperated at his low key don't worry bout a thing approach.....good with Messi maybe but we needed FIRE in the belly.....I'd like him to coach my kids thats it...lets be winners for once. There's plenty of time to be nice?

He coached my nephew on the under 17 boys national team, and I was not impressed with his football acumen at all, I was shocked when he became the National Mens Team coach, big deal we beat Cuba home and away. The Panama home result was good, but the two away games in Central America were pathetic. Nice enough guy but WE DO NOT WANT TO EVEN THINK ABOUT HART AS TFC COACH. NO NO NO NEVER NO!

[tfcocd]

And yet people were screaming for an experienced manager? I like Hart and I think he's an honourable man who will bring a level of professionalism and... gravitas that a gentleman could. (kinda reminds me of Winter in mannerism actually) But keep in mind, before CMNT gig, he coached some minor team in Halifax. He's familiar with MLS, but he doesn't know MLS like we need our manager too. Plus he's not a good motivator, especially during high pressure games.
He'll have inside track on returning CMNT players (and I can think of quite a few who would be an asset), plus knows the up and comers in Canadian youth system, but I don't think that's enough.

We need a proven winner at the helm. Hart would be nice on consulting or scouting capacity.

Scouting seems like the best fit for Hart after CMNT meltdown. Not sure what CMNT pays... but ML$E has capability of investing heavily in FO. TFC needs to improve its scouting and he could be a great addition. At the moment is there a high profile scout associated with TFC?

Agree that requirement for any Management positions in TFC should include North American expertise, ideally at MLS level.

[Oldtimer]

Hart as coach? No.
Technical adviser or scout? Certainly!

[nonc]

Hire Steven Hart to run the operations and then he hires Tony Fonseca as coach and let Tony bring in his assistant, Then Tony will have players come in on trial like:

Assistants - Fernando Aguiar - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Aguiar
Assistants - Marc Dos Santos - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dos_Santos

Pedro Pacheco - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Pacheco
Steven Vitoria - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Vitória
Daniel Fernandes - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Fernandes_(footballer)
Antonio Ribeiro - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/António_Ribeiro_(soccer)

Let the Portuguese invasion start!

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[Fort York Redcoat]

I love Canada. I think Hart needs distance from anything Canadian for a while in any aspect.

[Fort York Redcoat]

I thought Hart got jobbed when they only named him interim, and despite good results was replaced by the forgettable Dale Mitchell. Even after that fiasco the best the CSA could do was name him interim again, before finally giving him the position outright.

His greatest failure, IMO, was his inability to convince certain talent to turn out for the squad.

I put the lions share of disdain on those players unconvinced.

he put our boys to sleep and let them boss themselves....and we saw the disgusting results.....I was always exasperated at his low key don't worry bout a thing approach.....good with Messi maybe but we needed FIRE in the belly.....I'd like him to coach my kids thats it...lets be winners for once. There's plenty of time to be nice?

Hold on Jazzy. I agree he seemed to passive in responses but his hiring and "buddy, buddy" player manager style was a response to the out and out mutiny that Mitchell caused in part with his unrelenting attitude. Hart has failed but let's not dismiss the reasoning behind his appointment. The players didn't hate him and didn't refuse to play for him outright. They did however fail to perform for him at the death.

[mdc 77]

Hart? Based on what success?? What a crazy suggestion.

[Canary10]

Personally I would take him. He's tactically flexible, which I think we need. Would be a big step up from what we have. Other than the final game, we played very well defensively, even when he played more offensive tactically (which we did a few times). Anyone blaming him for the team's lack of motivation in the last game is a fool. If the players can't be motivated by those circumstances, nothing will motivate them. Hell, Aron Winter's teams were very motivated in big games, and we all know his general penchant for motivation.

[PAOK17]

Hart doesn't deserve to be put through our crazy FO. Also I'm not sure he's that good of an option. The thing is, when you have Mariner, pretty much anyone is a good replacement.

On the other hand, at least we knows he prefers JDG over Dunfield.

[phonzo]

.....normally I'd rationalize my post however I'm just going to toss this one out there and leave it.

No

[jazzy]

Personally I would take him. He's tactically flexible, which I think we need. Would be a big step up from what we have. Other than the final game, we played very well defensively, even when he played more offensive tactically (which we did a few times). Anyone blaming him for the team's lack of motivation in the last game is a fool. If the players can't be motivated by those circumstances, nothing will motivate them. Hell, Aron Winter's teams were very motivated in big games, and we all know his general penchant for motivation.

that would be Mr. Fool,..lol,...sorry but I saw our players playing very unorganized and fighting each other.at..games in Toronto , which shocked me , everyone seemed to be playing a different game without respect for each other,...the captain goes down with the ship. Our babies need a stern hand of someone who has respect the moment he walks on the field or our know-it-all players will mutiny.....and you do not win games being someones best friend, at least with our talent. just because our present coach is diabolical, we shouldn't pick a new one using our past as a reference....See Pete's remarks as per Harts hiring vs the Canadian nightmare Mr. Mitchell ...It's the same reasoning .....sports exudes emotions and as Canadians we need an extra shove over the edge....with ALL our teams . we simply have it to good....Mr. Hart ala Mr. Winter were/are too laid back.....although I'd still be in Winters corner. (because of his big league experience in the game)....all he needed was support.
By the way we freakin lost 8 to 1 .....at some point he should have played Morgan even Henry ..(yup) thats what I said IF they were available.....they would have changed the game or at least lost with friggin balls!....oh ya no to Hart ...

[tfcleeds]

I agree with an earlier suggestion to bring him on board as a scout. But other than that, no. He just doesn't suit the criteria for what we need as a manager.

[Carts]

I agree with an earlier suggestion to bring him on board as a scout. But other than that, no. He just doesn't suit the criteria for what we need as a manager.

WTF are you doing up at 6:41am?

[TFC07]

Mariner and MLSE should take a lesson how to be professional and classy from Hart. Hart refuse to blame players for the last game and throw them under the bus unlike our so called "players coach" aka Mariner.

Maybe Hart should manage a NASL team first before moving up to MLS. Unlike national team, you can get your type of players instead of working what you have. So it will be interesting to see how Hart will do with options.

[Shakes McQueen]

He's better than what we have, but I don't think he's what we need, so it would be pointless. Simply being better than PM doesn't fix anything.

I'd gladly take him on in an advisory capacity, or running a sub-section of the club like scouting.

- Scott

[supersaint]

Personally I would take him. He's tactically flexible, which I think we need. Would be a big step up from what we have. Other than the final game, we played very well defensively, even when he played more offensive tactically (which we did a few times). Anyone blaming him for the team's lack of motivation in the last game is a fool. If the players can't be motivated by those circumstances, nothing will motivate them. Hell, Aron Winter's teams were very motivated in big games, and we all know his general penchant for motivation.

What about the away game in Panama? Unorganized, and unmotivated there too. And lets face it, Honduras and Panama are hardly powerhouses.