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    Default New MLS salary update released

    http://www.mlsplayers.org/salary_info.html

    Did anyone else notice how only few players make big bucks and the rest make league min?

    O'Dea at 330k... Morgan still at league min?

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    O'Dea is also at $436k guaranteed. Over-payment in my opinion based on what I've seen so far. But kind of expected considering he is an Irish international. Poor use of cap space, imo.

    Freddy hall is making $44k, as expected. He will probably be back next year, with Kocic being shown the door.

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    Also we have the most expensive league worst back line in MLS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    Also we have the most expensive league worst back line in MLS.
    Two most expensive defenders in the league with Eckersley and O'Dea.

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    With Avila @ $125 base and sitting on the bench we can pretty much guarantee he will be gone next year.

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    "Two most expensive defenders in the league with Eckersley and O'Dea."

    Yup. That's appalling. Even more so given that Kocic makes $44,000. The guy will have to sell a triplet to survive in this city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suds View Post
    With Avila @ $125 base and sitting on the bench we can pretty much guarantee he will be gone next year.
    I expect all the players that Mariner doesn't start to be gone. Cann, Williams, Avila, Stinson, Makabuya, etc.

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    everytime i see ty harden's salary i die a little inside..

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    Quote Originally Posted by narduch View Post
    I expect all the players that Mariner doesn't start to be gone. Cann, Williams, Avila, Stinson, Makabuya, etc.
    Agreed.

    Cann @ $126k, Avila, $125k, Harden $90k (all base) will be gone for sure.

    Stinson, D Williams, Makabuya, Lindsay and a few others are on the league minimum or slightly higher. I see us cutting a few of those loose but not all of them.

    Kocic will likely be gone depending on Frei's ability to come back. Frei could be valued in a trade though and be moved for other assets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narduch View Post
    Two most expensive defenders in the league with Eckersley and O'Dea.
    Is O'Dea's salary pro rated over the whole season or is he on those numbers for the half season that he's played?

    And this is just what I feared. 725k (guaranteed) and 540k (base) for two guys in our back line.

    Now...consider that this back line has been giving up quite a few goals. So how exactly does it get better? Spend more money?

    Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    Also we have the most expensive league worst back line in MLS.
    We not counting Rafa Marquez at NYRB I guess? $4.6 mln guaranteed.

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    I knew it! O'Dea is way overpaid! Thanks a lot for killing our cap space, Mariner. Bad signing for club.

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    The way MLS works, we won't really know until next year if O'Dea and Eckersley got most of their money this year.

    I could see Eckersley getting less. But it wouldn't surprise me if O'Dea numbers are the same. We had to over-pay him to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC07 View Post
    I knew it! O'Dea is way overpaid! Thanks a lot for killing our cap space, Mariner. Bad signing for club.
    unless anyone can confirm the length of the signing, we're probably paying half of what he's making against the cap as he came in halfway through the season, would i be correct in that assumption?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerRed View Post
    We not counting Rafa Marquez at NYRB I guess? $4.6 mln guaranteed.
    At the moment they're playing with Pearce and Holgerson at $300 and $190.

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    also, for anyone who cares..

    NYRB are at $3,762,369 of the league cap ($15,812,368 in total). so they're got a fantastic accountant.. or a hell of a lot of allocation money.

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    Fair point canary.

    What stings like piss in the eye is Weedman on $123K.

    What the what?!?!?!?

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    ^ Yeah, that one is brutal. He must be GA?

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    He is GA, which is part of the reason TFC is paying De Guzman's salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narduch View Post
    He is GA, which is part of the reason TFC is paying De Guzman's salary.

    Let's look at that trade again. Given that we are paying all but JDG's cap hit for Dallas (half of $330,000), and Wiedeman is making $123,000, I assume half of which we pay for taking him on half way through the season, the savings we got on JDG's contract amount to about $100,000. Was it really worth $100,000 to not have enough central midfielders? On a contract that was going to be up anyway at the end of the year?

    The JDG trade was pure bravado and spite on the part of Mariner.

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    Fuck, that is a lot of money for what O'dea brings to the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v00d00daddy View Post
    Is O'Dea's salary pro rated over the whole season or is he on those numbers for the half season that he's played?

    And this is just what I feared. 725k (guaranteed) and 540k (base) for two guys in our back line.

    Now...consider that this back line has been giving up quite a few goals. So how exactly does it get better? Spend more money?

    Wow.
    I agree that they are both overpaid within the context of the league, but personally I don't draw any conclusions about that those two based on the back line. Ecks at RB, O'Dea at CB paired with another solid CB, and Morgan at LB is a solid back line.

    Problem is, no midfield support and no possession they are going to leak goals. Mariners football invites wave after wave of pressure.

    Plug the best back line in the league into our team as it stands, and I'm convinced we would still be leaking goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad View Post
    I agree that they are both overpaid within the context of the league, but personally I don't draw any conclusions about that those two based on the back line. Ecks at RB, O'Dea at CB paired with another solid CB, and Morgan at LB is a solid back line.

    Problem is, no midfield support and no possession they are going to leak goals. Mariners football invites wave after wave of pressure.

    Plug the best back line in the league into our team as it stands, and I'm convinced we would still be leaking goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    Need a more mobile DM. Essential in MLS
    We need an entirely new midfield. Including this.

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    The Impact must have the worlds best contract negotiator working for them. The only salaries that can arguably be considered overpay (Arnaud - 290k, Mapp - 218k, Perkins - 201k) were already established before they joined the team.

    New arrivals Camara(75k), Ferrari(185k), Martins(120k), Nesta(225k), Rivas(50k), Bernier(150k) all excellent value.

    Isn't Cochrane in charge of contracts for TFC? what a mess!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    We need an entirely new midfield. Including this.
    Well, yeah lol. If TFC is going to play flat back 4 (and I think this is stupid), TFC needs wingers that will track back once in a while.

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    Rivas only played 11 games this year, and is out 5 months due to injury... again. Waste of international spot for Mtl this year

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    Nesta $225K

    O'Dea $436K

    How does this make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest Ripoff View Post
    Nesta $225K

    O'Dea $436K

    How does this make sense?
    You do know there are quite a few MLS defenders that makes more than Nesta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad View Post
    I agree that they are both overpaid within the context of the league, but personally I don't draw any conclusions about that those two based on the back line. Ecks at RB, O'Dea at CB paired with another solid CB, and Morgan at LB is a solid back line.

    Problem is, no midfield support and no possession they are going to leak goals. Mariners football invites wave after wave of pressure.

    Plug the best back line in the league into our team as it stands, and I'm convinced we would still be leaking goals.
    I agree about Mariner's brand of football being garbage...problem is....Ecks and O'Dea are Mariners brand of footballer. Not sure if they can spearhead a defensive line that will be able to win balls AND move it along to a midfield that can keep possession. O'Dea and Ecks are both "boot it out" defenders. Even Eck's distribution is often a 30 yard cross field ball.

    And O'Dea paired with another solid CB means, at the very least, another 75-100k for that defender.

    1 million dollars along the back line where O'Dea and Ecks are the anchors? No thanks

 

 

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