Are you proud of the crest?

[Belfast_Boy]

Yeah but it doesn't solve the question of who would buy out MLSE other than Bell/Rogers? Who?

all the more reason to make sure MLSE knows that their stewardship of this franchise is sadly lacking. if TFC are not bought do we simply wait for 10, 15 25, 45 years for them to stumble upon a winning formula? it's not working for the Leafs.

[Fort York Redcoat]

They are part owners. The club was majority owned by others, they were the important decision makers.

For MLSE, its esentially a Bell/Rogers partnership. Its a big difference.

So you don't think having Bell on the board makes any difference. Ok. Keep waiting on Roman Abramavich to fall from a maple tree...

[narduch]

So you don't think having Bell on the board makes any difference. Ok. Keep waiting on Roman Abramavich to fall from a maple tree...

I actually thought it might make a difference. I was very hopefull for that.

Until Anselmi was promoted.

Now I know it will just be more of the same bullshit, at least for the near future.

[Fort York Redcoat]

I actually thought it might make a difference. I was very hopefull for that.

Until Anselmi was promoted.

Now I know it will just be more of the same bullshit, at least for the near future.

His promotion takes him further away from making decisions and one of a number that simply approves decisions. Is it good enough? No. Is it better for us right now? Yes.

[narduch]

His promotion takes him further away from making decisions and one of a number that simply approves decisions.

This is speculation.

I think its more of the same.

Besides, it appears they gave Earl Cochrane more power, which is not good.

[Belfast_Boy]

His promotion takes him further away from making decisions and one of a number that simply approves decisions. Is it good enough? No. Is it better for us right now? Yes.

that's right it's not good enough. that's why as supporters we have to pressure them into making the right moves.

[Fort York Redcoat]

This is speculation.

I think its more of the same.

Besides, it appears they gave Earl Cochrane more power, which is not good.

Haha... said the pot to the kettle. You aren't sourcing any of your feelings of worry. Trust me or don't but you just changed the subject.

Earl is unproven and hasn't had a chance at the helm. Most of what he's been responsible for is speculation. Which way did you want to take this?

[narduch]

Haha... said the pot to the kettle. You aren't sourcing any of your feelings of worry. Trust me or don't but you just changed the subject.

Earl is unproven and hasn't had a chance at the helm. Most of what he's been responsible for is speculation. Which way did you want to take this?

LOL.

You are a joke sometimes.

Not sure what you are defending here. But more power to you.

Pretty hard to defend this front office. But that's cool for you that you would want to.

[Fort York Redcoat]

LOL.

You are a joke sometimes.

Not sure what you are defending here. But more power to you.

Clearly.

Anyway this crest pride issue never had anything to do with your little faith in how much change has occurred in management this year. BTW if you'd like me to explain it further I'd gladly take it to PM's

[narduch]

Sure if you want.

I don't have any faith in the management of this team. Don't see why anyone in their right mind would.

[tfcleeds]

I don't think MLSE is going anywhere in the short-term, but that doesn't mean we as supporters can't make Belogers aware of the buffoons that are currently running the show, which I think is certainly part of what our protests are about. Yes, I think we're stuck with Uncle Tom for the foreseeable future, and I don't think there's much we can do about that, but enough pressure from supporters could hopefully see decisions made re: TFC FO personnel changes in the short-term. For Rogers and Bell, it's all about content. TFC don't remotely come close to getting the TV numbers that the Leafs, Jays, or even Raptors do, so down the road if attendance continues to suffer, who's to say they wouldn't consider spinning off TFC as a sports property? Who's gonna buy? I don't know at this point. But surely there are a number of investors with Toronto ties who might want to take a stab at it - say, someone like an Alex Shnaider (who owns or owned Maccabi Tel-Aviv, I believe). That's my hope anyway.

[brad]

Buyers wouldn't need to be in TO. The team could be bought and relocated.

[Macksam]

Buyers wouldn't need to be in TO. The team could be bought and relocated.

I'm pretty sure it would never come to that. If MLSE were to sell the team, they should have no problem finding a local owner willing to buy it. It's an MLS franchise in Toronto, which screams high value in itself.

[jazzy]

that's right it's not good enough. that's why as supporters we have to pressure them into making the right moves.

absolutely , what else is there ?....wait and pay , wait and pay.......seriously.....I'm so sick of fat white cats....living high on the hog...enjoying our hard earned entertainment dollars!......I'd like to think that dedicated soccer fans are not as gullible as hockey fans in this country......