5 bucks says he tells you to apply for a job with MLSE,
5 bucks says he tells you to apply for a job with MLSE,
Glad you're going and I agree with your approach.
A proper experienced president is the biggest need... avoids most of the issues that we have experienced. People here have given some good questions that are football related, most of them are very good, I would only ask would he consider looking at AEG as a possible source for someone experienced in running the footall operation? They are an entity very much like ML$E in character with their fingers in all kinds of pies, yet manage to have winning teams... go figure.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
There are a lot of great points being made here. Lets hope this meeting is a complete success.
But: don't forget! We still need to prepare for Saturday. If you are one of those that has said you are going to bring a banner to this game, do it. Get on it today!
I have faith in Mark, but I have little faith in Tom or MLSE. We still need to bring it. A march from Joe's, banners, flags and mad support for our team. Afterwards, the march to the Gate 4 rally to make our statement.
4 days to prepare.
There's no other way to say it but as we are always pointing out, the common denominator with TFC's mixed forutunes has always been Tom Anselmi. Players have come and gone. Managers have come and gone. Coaches have come and gone. It's pretty clear to me that we need a dedicated Toronto FC Club President who has the authority to build the team he wants and the experience and know-how to compete in this league.
And even though you want to keep the conversation focused on the quality of football, I really feel tickets prices still need to be addressed. The bottom line is that TFC fans and supporters are paying some of the highest prices in the league for tickets and pretty much everything else that comes with the gameday experience (food, drinks, and other costs). If Montreal can cut its prices to bring in more fans, TFC can as well to entice people back and give the current SSH a solid reason to renew.
Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
Just thought of another thing this morning. Tom seems to think that TFC's problems are only "cyclical," that it's a matter of chance and eventually TFC will win and the fans will come back without Tom needing to do anything. I'd counter that TFC has done amazingly poorly to be outside of the playoffs for so many years in a parity league, and that has to come down to lack of football background in the higher-level decision-making and not just "luck." Hence the need for someone knowledgeable in charge will full confidence and power. Not just a consultant who is unaccountable for results.
As far as the cyclical nature of sports, yes sports are "cyclical" to some degree, but the Boston Red Sox had an 86-year dry period. Or to take a hockey drought, the Winnipeg Jets have never won a post-season match (12 years and running since their franchise entered the NHL). Droughts can go on and on, and on. There is no guarantee they will end just due to dumb "luck." You need good leadership.
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MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
Brooker it's a one on one.
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I think price has already been covered.
As Chris said last.night lets stay on target. Yes our action have started to be noticed and opened the door for discussion.
But also have to stay focused on our action on Saturday .
Keep painting and getting your bags together.
Lets make Montreal remember they are in Toronto.
I've kept away from this point, M. but how will bags do anything but fuel our biggest rivals? The bags are there to be pitied, not applauded. The banners show your strength in voice and message. The bags are simply objects of ridicule. It's your thing and I get the message you're sending but thinking you'll get anything but extra jeers instead of respect from Montreal is folly.
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The bags aren't for the Montreal visitors.
They are a message to the team owner and the media in this city.
Just do a big LOL spray painted on a garbage bag.
Works on so many levels.
hahahahaha
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Big shout out To Belfast_Boy
Way to go man
GlenM
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This is fantastic. Sticking to the football questions lends credibility as opposed to being just another "whiny income source". Many of the questions have already been posted here. Write them down, let him know you're taking notes so you don't misconstrue his responses. Hell, give him a copy and ask him to go through them one by one!
The real challenge (IMO) is to avoid him telling you "I just hire/appoint these guys, all the questions you have should be asked of them."
Let's not forget you're dealing with an expert at spinning things and passing the buck.
Oh, I'd also recommend a tape recorder. I'm sure he won't mind being "on the record" about things. LOL.
And tell him my financial support of this club just became cyclical, and we're at the bottom of said cycle. (sorry, couldn't resist)
is it too late for one of you whiz kids to do up a banner idea ?
Something like this ?
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Tell him the communication between the team and it's fans about people's roles within the team and expectations is not clear, and that's a huge issue.
Right now we have Paul Mariner in charge... we don't know what the club expects of him, we don't know if he's intern or full-time, we don't know what he did for Aron Winter, and we don't know how long his fucking contract is! You could say the same thing about Earl Cochrane. It is pretty clear the club hides these things from fans so they can change the narrative when it suits their purposes. Nobody is fooled anymore, and it's just frustrating to be kept in the dark. It makes it look like they are utterly incompetent and have to change the script every five minutes. Grow a pair of balls and tell your fan base what is happening. If you extend a coaches contract: disclose it when it happens. If you expect next year to be a re-build:state it clearly up-front.
And one more thing: quit making ONLY the coach responsible for results. Other people need to be held accountable as well and you should actually fire them when they aren't wanted rather than pigeon-hole them in the corner like Dasovic and DeClerk have been.
@Belfast_Boy ;
you could ask it this way :
What do you think has a greater impact on Season Ticket renewals ? The dysfunctional Front Office, or the cost of the ticket ?
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I'd be very curious why they have focused on managers with little to no experience running a team vs finding someone who is an experienced manager. Ideally one with North American experience.
He will probably try and spin Mariner as the answer to that, but Mariner never ran NE.
Curious what is the reasoning for this meeting? I mean is this a request from you on behalf of the Red Patch Boys to meet with Anselmi? To make the Red Patch Boys concerns formally known?