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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    This is a promotion. Take it or don't.

    Half the rage in here is about the team, it's lack of direction and prices we don't know about yet.

    Let's try and stay on topic.

    Myself, I'm not interested in a new shirt or credit card so that's where it ends. I continue to wait for a more valuable announcement from the club.
    I'd agree if the email was addressed from BMO, with BMO's logos everywhere and signed by a BMO executive.

    Then I'd read it as 'if you sign up for this card and use it to renew your TFC tickets you'll get this shirt'.

    There's a subtle difference between that and 'renew your season tickets and you'll get this shirt (but only if you use this card)'
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    ^ The shirt-for-card is still the offer. It's hardly a hostage situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    ^ The shirt-for-card is still the offer. It's hardly a hostage situation.
    It's not as black and white as that. It hinges on season ticket renewal.
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    ^Still not complicated, though.

    Who do think will be renewing because of this offer?
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    Yeah, I still don't see what the problem is. If they do this promotion instead of actually reducing ticket prices, then go nuts - but there's no indication one way or another yet, about that. In the meantime, it's a free shirt for renewing STHs; the kind of promotion teams, and their official sponsors run all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOBOR THE GREAT ! View Post
    I think he's saying the percentage of tickets sold that actually get used will increase, as people only buy tickets to games they intend to go to.
    I see said the blind man. this might be true but overall attendance will go in the dumper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    ^Still not complicated, though.

    Who do think will be renewing because of this offer?

    be pretty silly to renew because of the offer. but think I'll be getting a new shirt this year and cancel that BMO card pronto.

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    Surely all these posts here on this thread do nothing but give this advertising campaign of BMO more prominence.

    Like trolls, advertising campaigns like this are best ignored.

    And I'm unsure why someone made it look like at 2013 renewal thread ... more hits that way I guess ...

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    ^... the promotion is tied to renewal for 2013 season tickets.

    Do people care about how many 'hits' their threads get ?
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    I plan on renewing anyways, and I thought it would be a good idea and a nice gesture from the FO to give out a new jersey along with ALL renewals to reward fan and supporter loyalty...regardless of who you decide to bank with. Paul Beirne didn't seem to agree when I mentioned this to him on Twitter...his lack of a response spoke louder than any possible response could've. Terribly naive on my part I guess to hope for something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOBOR THE GREAT ! View Post
    ^... the promotion is tied to renewal for 2013 season tickets.
    So ... it's still little more than a Bank promotion. I toss enough pieces of mail from CIBC in the Blue Bin without opening them ... not sure why the need to shill for BMO for free.

    Quote Originally Posted by TOBOR THE GREAT ! View Post
    Do people care about how many 'hits' their threads get ?
    Then why make it look like a thread about 2013 renewals, which is a minor aspect of this BMO promotion to get people to get credit cards? I'm sure they love all the free advertising.

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    @nfitz ; no-one here is shilling for BMO.

    I made the thread look like it had something to do with 2013 ST renewals because the offer is tied to 2013 ST renewals.

    Moving on...
    @TFC_Allez ; I agree with you. A jersey should accompany your ST renewal automatically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC_Allez View Post
    Paul Beirne didn't seem to agree when I mentioned this to him on Twitter...his lack of a response spoke louder than any possible response could've.
    What's your twitter handle? I think I've responded to all queries.

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    My twitter handle is @RobDitta. Your response was to my initial question, when I asked "@Paulbeirne what about those who renew but don't have the BMO TFC MasterCard? Will we still get a jersey?" when you said "@RobDitta that would defeat the purpose. BMO is trying to drive sign ups."
    You didn't have anything to say to my response of "@Paulbeirne Ah I see. Fair enough I guess. Would've been nice to get a jersey for being a loyal fan as opposed to doing my banking through BMO"
    I do understand that the jersey giveaway is a promotional thing for those who renew using this mastercard...but after the shit that we've all had to witness on and off the field as supporters, for 6 years and counting, why not give jerseys to ALL those who renew, regardless of how the payment would be made, as a token of respect and gratitude for helping to keep BMO somewhat fun despite the on field product.

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    Who cares about a jersey when they could lower prices? Gawd. People complain about dangling carrots then ask for free carrots.
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    Norwich is giving Canaries fans 25GBP towards their merch for buying away seats at Chelsea. That's it. Show up to an AWAY MATCH and club gives you money to spend.

    If we're going to charge like EPL, lets give perks like EPL eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan View Post
    Norwich is giving Canaries fans 25GBP towards their merch for buying away seats at Chelsea. That's it. Show up to an AWAY MATCH and club gives you money to spend.

    If we're going to charge like EPL, lets give perks like EPL eh?
    You know, that is kind of a cool offer by the club. It may not be huge dollars but it is something that says the club recognizes the money fans spend to travel to away games and support the team. This is something I'd like to see TFC investigate. Many clubs have ways of earning loyalty points for various purchases or events a fan attends. TFC could look at something similar. Reward SSH's some how for away games they travel to. Loyalty points can be earned and traded for swag, discounts, payer meetings, etc. It does not need to be a major cost item. Just something that says the club appreciates the money spent and time put in for fans to travel to an away game and support the club. This is an area I think TFC could do better in engaing their fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    Who cares about a jersey when they could lower prices? Gawd. People complain about dangling carrots then ask for free carrots.
    I agree with you! ...but since the topic here is related to a new jersey promotion for renewing, it would be kinda nice updating from my season one jersey, for free I've already commented in other threads saying they should lower prices across the board.

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    Ryan... Norwich is the epitome of a fan and family oriented club. It is why their fan base is so loyal, through good times and bad ( the latter barely over three years ago ). The club's Board and leadership is composed of fans rather than corporations ( nothing against the latter- I am a capitalist- but profits and sports don't mix well ). As well Norwich's home and away kits have been voted the best in the EPL despite their relatively small proportion of the voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fort York Redcoat View Post
    Who cares about a jersey when they could lower prices? Gawd. People complain about dangling carrots then ask for free carrots.
    I think people are simply asking to be able to keep more of their own carrots when the team shares plenty of carrots from other farms in the league. It shares in the SUM profits from the carrot industry.

    It doesn't pay for the farmers, except the Designated Farmers. It gets Adidas subsidies to run its Junior Carrot Farm program. It's carrot farm is worth many times more now than it was when it was purchased. All fans are asking for is an agricultural specialist to run the farm itself not an engineer and to be able to keep a few of the carrots they grew on their own. Just let us keep the same amount of carrots as other fans get to keep in their markets.

    Is that too much?

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    Just got an email from the Jays. They are already selling 2013 season tickets. They even already have the 2013 schedule out.

    New season ticket buyers get a Bautista boblehead, a jacket and a $100 gift card to the team store. No need to sign up for a credit card.

    No news from TFC yet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC_Allez View Post
    So it seems I'm still waiting for a response from the 'always responsive' mlsintoronto, otherwise known as Paul Beirne I suspect by the exception he took to me 'naming names'. I even gave him my twitter handle and quoted the tweets. What did he think...that I was just making a story up to drag his name through the dirt? Nah. He doesn't need my help with that. He's just another clown in the circus that is MLSE/TFC FO. Nice try though Paul. At this rate you might have to change your board name to MLSEKilledSoccerInToronto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC_Allez View Post
    So it seems I'm still waiting for a response from the 'always responsive' mlsintoronto, otherwise known as Paul Beirne I suspect by the exception he took to me 'naming names'. I even gave him my twitter handle and quoted the tweets. What did he think...that I was just making a story up to drag his name through the dirt? Nah. He doesn't need my help with that. He's just another clown in the circus that is MLSE/TFC FO. Nice try though Paul. At this rate you might have to change your board name to MLSEKilledSoccerInToronto.
    Your tweet to him that you seem to be expecting a response to was:Am I the only one who can't see a question in there to respond to? Obviously if BMO is going to pay $ for jerseys for people who sign up with them, they aren't going to give the same to those who don't. What's the outstanding question? Not trying to be difficult here, but if I saw that response, I would think that was the end of the conversation. Paul always seems to be pretty good at answering questions on Twitter.

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    You're right. Maybe if I had formed it as more of a question it would've warranted a response. I was just anticipating something, anything, in response to the idea that loyal fans who renew, regardless of the method of payment, should be rewarded for it in some way. I do see your point though. I was blinded by rage I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narduch View Post
    Just got an email from the Jays. They are already selling 2013 season tickets. They even already have the 2013 schedule out.

    New season ticket buyers get a Bautista boblehead, a jacket and a $100 gift card to the team store. No need to sign up for a credit card.

    No news from TFC yet though.
    That's a nice package for new STHs, although the official Jays team shop is a total ripoff (online or offline). You can get Jays apparel cheaper from the official MLB store, than you can from the Blue Jays' own store. Try and make sense of that, without getting a nosebleed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOBOR THE GREAT ! View Post
    @Phil ; Sure, pay off the balance of the season tickets right away and come out ahead by a shirt.

    This works as long as you never use the card again. How many people are likely to do that ?
    That was kind of my plan, I have other cards I use.

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    It's actually not a bad deal for a MasterCard, I've had a BMO card for years as a secondary card. There's no charge for the basic card, and you get 1/2% cash back on transactions. Now that you can add the TFC logo it's hard not to like (and no, I don't work for BMO and rarely use the card).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    I think people are simply asking to be able to keep more of their own carrots when the team shares plenty of carrots from other farms in the league. It shares in the SUM profits from the carrot industry.

    It doesn't pay for the farmers, except the Designated Farmers. It gets Adidas subsidies to run its Junior Carrot Farm program. It's carrot farm is worth many times more now than it was when it was purchased. All fans are asking for is an agricultural specialist to run the farm itself not an engineer and to be able to keep a few of the carrots they grew on their own. Just let us keep the same amount of carrots as other fans get to keep in their markets.

    Is that too much?
    Unfortunately MLSE are city boys, and have no clue how to farm and grow carrots. Each senior executive (ABC) has piled on their own personal manure on the field, year after year. As a result of way too much crap, they only can grow a few carrots, they are all scrawny and they definitely taste like shit.

    Does it really matter if they dangle the carrot or hand it to you for free? Doesn't it still taste like shit?
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    Anyone else notice that TFC is running radio ads trying to sell tickets to the last remaining home games?

    Well they are advertising ticket as low as $17. Which is below what south end season ticket holders pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suds View Post
    It may not be huge dollars
    It's more than I've spent at BMO all season.

    Quote Originally Posted by mlsintoronto View Post
    What's your twitter handle? I think I've responded to all queries.
    What about those of us that don't meet the requirements to sign up for the card? Are we basically SOL?

 

 

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