There's also this:Originally Posted by joeyjones
http://www.sounderatheart.com/2012/7...deportivo-cali
There's also this:
http://www.sounderatheart.com/2012/7...deportivo-cali
Well perhaps we gained the ability to use the DP spot .... but no actual cap relief since we still pay most fo his salary. I think we were all just happy to see DeGuzman gone and did not question the circumstances. But it makes very little sense for MLS to allow for a team to trade a DP to another team and pay all (or the vast majority) of his salary and then regain the DP spot and the whole cap hit. That would essentially be circumventing the rule that does not allow anotehr team to acquire a 4th DP.This is from the bottom of the wvhooligan link you provided:
Without gaining salary cap relief and a DP spot, how does the deal make sense for TFC? Under such a scenario, Mariner would be responsible for TFC paying to improve FC Dallas while essentially making Wiedeman TFC's new DP.
That Larson tweet makes some sense to me. Another way to put it: just because Garber is lying, doesn't mean TFC FO didn't fuck up. Perhaps TFC thought: we'll send JDG to Dallas, free that DP spot up, Dallas takes the cap hit, but TFC keeps paying JDG's salary that is above the cap. They agree on financial details with Mellberg etc. & say the deal is done.
Then perhaps MLS says: if you're still paying JDG's salary above the cap, then he's still your DP. That would make some sense under the league's parity rules; Asif & others from TFC have been harping about MLS parity rules in the last few days. The league's view would be: we don't want a rich team like MLSE/TFC to give away DPs, still pay their DP salary, and sign new DPs at the same time -- something that a less wealthy MLS team would not be able to do. For the next half year, TFC would potentially be paying DP salaries to 5 players: JDG; Frings; Koevermans; Hassli; Mellberg.
EDIT or approximately what arsenal said above
Last edited by Auzzy; 07-27-2012 at 03:38 PM.
auzzy, your explanation makes sense to me.
It is also plausible that TFC made the deal thinking that they would be relieving themselves of the DP only to have the league weigh in after the fact. It's not uncommon for TFC to not understand the nature of contracts (see, Plata, DeRo)
One also has to look at what's plausible.
The league has shown time and time again that it is willing to make exceptions. For his years here, DeRo was paid more than the league max and only counted $335k against the cap. He resigned in DC for close to $700k, has a $335k cap hit and isn't a DP.
To think that they just don't want Mellberg because he isn't the right type of DP is just foolish. There have been many "unknown" DPs that have little added value for the league. Even MLS promotions like Joseph to DP to other players that aren't "name brands." They don't care about Mellberg's ability to sell tickets. If ticket selling is a concern, it's related to MLSE's operation of their franchise.
Ultimately, this is a "lesson" to TFC that you have to get your shit together. Let's not forget how foolish TFC made them look during the Celtic fiasco. That stuff sticks.
Seattle didn't even have to pay a penny to circumvent the rule:
http://www.soundersfc.com/news/artic...d-to-fire.aspxSeattle Sounders FC has traded midfielder Alvaro Fernandez to the Chicago Fire in exchange for allocation money.
Seattle is even going to get magical "allocation" $ to improve their team even more. LMFAO.
I must have missed in the article where is says that Seattle is still paying all (or most) of his salary
^ Pookie, I agree. There have been plenty of bizarre DP signings. I can't imagine MLS stopping the signing of a guy who just played well in the Euros, just because he's a defender -- especially with TFC's obvious defensive problems, and TFC's financial importance for the league.
Perhaps it's also the case that one exception to the DP rule (replacing JDG; or replacing the injured DP Danny K) would have been OK, but replacing two while still paying their DP salaries was too much for the league. I only did the math now & realized that we would essentially have five DP salaries to cover for the rest of the year if Mellberg came as a DP.
Also a colossal screw up if TFC can't find a good non-DP CB. There are plenty around the league; why can't TFC find any after 5.5 years? Well except Tebily who was good for 4 games...
Last edited by Auzzy; 07-27-2012 at 03:55 PM.
Only TFC does things like that.I must have missed in the article where is says that Seattle is still paying all (or most) of his salary
LOL ..... well it helps when the DP you are trading away is actually good and being paid accordingly.Only TFC does things like that.
It certainly does. It's also a good thing Seattle wasn't forced to accept any contracts in return for Alvaro Fernandez either. A good deal all around. I wish TFC had Seattle's management team.
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