I'm guessing we'll be playing Hassli and Johnson up front, with Weideman and Amarikwa as the subs?
Finally official.
are we just trading for players with funny names now?
also.. interesting to note the kind of things mariner finds the club can do without; we're giving up draft picks, conditional draft picks, etc, for the sake of depth and immediate results.
Last edited by __wowza; 07-21-2012 at 01:06 PM.
Id be very surprised if QA cost more than a supplemental draft pick. Hes a depth striker for speed in late games. Dont expect more than that
With Ryan/silva/ and now Eric up front, with 2 good-average subs coming in that can score late goals... Hmm, starting to see Paul's new team already!
With TFC wanting to play a more attacking style of game there is nothing wrong with some depth up front.
It can be a problem if management brings in the wrong guy. There are people making it known that Amarikwa has character issues:
Originally Posted by MMVhttp://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_b....html#commentsOriginally Posted by tmack in reply to MMV
TFC doesn't need basket cases, disruptions or any more drama.
"Amarikwa, Fuck Meh" -- TheYorkies1812
I think that they got it about right.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
No, we're simply building a team in a manner that most other clubs in MLS do. You see, you were told a lie years ago about how much of a difficult and lengthy process it is to create a competitive team in this league. I don't blame you for believing in it, though. It was parroted by the GM at the time, the Director of Operations, and pretty much everyone else at the Front Office. But where things went wrong is that fans started to say it as well and began to truly believe in it. You know what they say about a lie that's told enough times.
Fast forward to today and what Mariner is doing is pretty straight-forward. He's supplementing and augmenting the talent on this team in a completely reasonable time frame - again, just like what other teams in the league have done time after time.
The era of the 5-Year Plan at TFC is died. It should never have been alive in the first place. Don't be afraid though, we're all better off this way.
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Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
Because it just has to be done
Amarikwa... Amarikwa...!!!
Amarikwa! Fuck yeah! Scoring again, to save the mutherfucking day yeah!
Amarikwa! Fuck yeah! Quincy is the only way yeah!
(Opposition team) your game is through cause now you have to answer too,
Amarikwa! Fuck yeah! Quincy will lead TFC to win,
What you going to do when he come for you now.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
I was thinking more of the Ramstein "Amerika" song.
i don't necessarily believe this, remember when the timbers or the union came into the league and we were all aghast at how easy it seemed for them? well two of them are in a self-professed "re-building stage" and scrapping the bottle of the barrel with us. i still think youth is the way to go, and im enjoying what i see from silva/morgan. i enjoyed what i saw from plata when he was with us. the standard in my mind has always been "build from youth, acquire what else you need" and i still believe that. we should be bringing up the majority of the squad from things like our youth academy, and drafts.
we can sell off what we don't need for allocation, higher draft picks and players to round out our roster. we don't have a left mid coming up the ranks? we trade for one. we don't have a striker? use allocation to land a plausible name. etc. i think the whole wheeling-and-dealing model is dead, and i always have. that's not a 5-year plan, that's a model for how a team should be run. there's nothing i enjoy more than hearing a player whose come through the works as a red getting a national team call-up or a long term deal.
Portland and Philly are two of the younger teams in the league now IIRC. The Union have already had more success in the league than we've ever achieved and could be positioned to bounce back after one year. Portland look like the next TFC style basketcase of a franchise with big support leading to too high expectations leading to hasty decisions... and possibly meddling ownership.
We've certainly scored more goals under Mariner than Winter.
I never personally saw much attacking under Winter. The ball got stuck in the middle 3rd of the field and it was often that we had maybe 2 or 3 decent chances per game. Under Mariner we have multiple - 10 plus every game! That is definitely more attacking, I would say.
Based on traditional labels, you're theoretically correct. TFC played an attacking game under Winter and they are now playing a counter attacking game under Mariner.
The result? TFC sored 8 goals in 10 games under Winter, and they have scored 16 goals in 10 games under Mariner.
San Jose plays a 4-4-2 counter attacking style as well and they lead the league in offense with 44 goals thus far.
We should honestly concern ourselves with results as opposed to labels.
You can call me blind if you like, but I never saw Winter's game as an "attacking game". It was an slow build up game, building slowly through the defense and midfield. The players were never good enough at passing through the midfield to create much of an attack, so the ball ended up bouncing around the defense and midfield until TFC inevitably lost the ball.
Under Mariner, they have played counter attacking when they have been trying to hold onto a lead. But overall Mariner has been going out and attacking the opponents and scoring a goal early in game (which never happened under Winter). I don't think I'd call that counter-attacking, necessarily?
Agreed with you.
I think some RPB argument is that TFC should be judged on more than results, especially in the short term. But realistically, that's never going to happen. Not for ML$E, not for the MLS, and not for the "average" TFC SSH. If TFC go another 2 or 3 seasons without getting into the play offs 1. ML$E will see that as failure as it won't equate to profit in that time as they will lose SSH (we know this), 2. the only real judgment on an MLS team is if they get into the play offs, and 3. the "average" SSH isn't a RPB and they JUST want to see results - they don't care about the Winter System, or long term visions or total football. The average TFC SSH would take ugly winning over beautiful losing any day of the week, unfortunately.