Frings

[Rudy]

A few facts:
1. made a few mistakes after his return from injruy, including one that cost a goal, and another missed penalty kick.
2. His mid-field skills and free kicks are definitely no David Beckham's.
3. I dont understand what happened at today's game. he threw his captain band on the pitch, and walked out showing total disrespect to the game, to the referree, to the coach, to his sub, to his back-up captain, and to the fans. what was that all about?

and one kther thing... why is it that his interviews are all audio only? just curious....

[tfcleeds]

Funny, regarding your third point, that really isn't the impression I got. Didn't he get injured again? I sensed it was frustration over that.

[denime]

A few facts:
1. made a few mistakes after his return from injruy, including one that cost a goal, and another missed penalty kick.
2. His mid-field skills and free kicks are definitely no David Beckham's.
3. I dont understand what happened at today's game. he threw his captain band on the pitch, and walked out showing total disrespect to the game, to the referree, to the coach, to his sub, to his back-up captain, and to the fans. what was that all about?

and one kther thing... why is it that his interviews are all audio only? just curious....

Collarbone injury that what happened today,he was in pain and wanted out,after ref did not stopped the game he kicked the ball out and went to the locker room.Previously he was already on the sideline and physiotherapist checked him,it was obvious he can not play like that.

[Richard]

I wouldnt look to hard into him throwing the band down. The man is a legend and all class, I think its more fustration as getting re-injured and not being able to help the team is whats killing him. Also I dont think he is comfortable speaking English infront of a camera and he said he avoids media when possible.

[Blizzard]

3. I dont understand what happened at today's game. he threw his captain band on the pitch, and walked out showing total disrespect to the game, to the referree, to the coach, to his sub, to his back-up captain, and to the fans. what was that all about?

Were you at the game Rudy? He was injured on one of our corners when a teammate crashed into him jamming his shoulder. It was obvious he'd been injured. It was replayed on the screens at least once. At the first opportunity, he was at the bench being looked at by the physio. He went back on for a few minutes to see how it was and then when it was obvious he couldn't continue, he booted the ball out of bounds and headed for the locker room asap with the physio immediately following.

Anybody who was watching the match would have seen all of this taking place. Your "facts" are your own assumptions and way off base.

[tfc2008]

Were you at the game Rudy? He was injured on one of our corners when a teammate crashed into him jamming his shoulder. It was obvious he'd been injured. It was replayed on the screens at least once. At the first opportunity, he was at the bench being looked at by the physio. He went back on for a few minutes to see how it was and then when it was obvious he couldn't continue, he booted the ball out of bounds and headed for the locker room asap with the physio immediately following.

Anybody who was watching the match would have seen all of this taking place. Your "facts" are your own assumptions and way off base.

I was at the game and yes i saw how he get injured,but you dont have to act like him as a captain

[Blizzard]

I was at the game and yes i saw how he get injured,but you dont have to act like him as a captain

Do you know how much pain he might have been in at that moment time? If he does in fact have a broken collar bone as has been discussed here, the man was in agony. Sure, it would have been better if he'd handed it to somebody but it didn't happen that way and I for one don't have any reason to be critical of the man. Hell, he might have just played ten minutes with a broken bloody collar bone!

[prizby]

i didn't know we could make things up and call them facts

[Pookie]

... in addition, when he kicked the ball out there was a hurt DC player down on the pitch that a few DC players were pointing to

[69Chevy396]

I like Frings, but no way he can be pleased with his decision to pick this horrible organization for his move to North America. Why would anybody want to play here? Mention Toronto anywhere on the Continent and any reference to our pro clubs is coloured by derision, mockery, laughter insults. We are known as the worst city for being a pro sports fan, and it is mostly due to the ghosts of Harold Ballard, Steve Stavros and the current bag of human shit that runs mlse. Frings would probably leave if he could get out of his contract, and it is doubtful we will ever see another German player on this team anytime soon.

[jazzy]

I saw McDonald bend his arm back, not unlike a rotator cuff tear ,...McDonald showed no class, to a vet, and off course the ref missed it.......the way he called the game, led to injuries.......his shoulder slumped,....AND THAT KILLS......he's still giving it his ask for a crap organization........don't shit on him, AND HE IS THE MAIN MAN TO COME OVER ADD ACKNOWLEDGE the fans.......shit on Mlse, Anselmi,, ...not the players,.....MLSE is left in corporate 50,s , which seems to exist esp in Toronto.......where money stagnates
creativity,....tired of the old school

[Rudy]

i didn't know we could make things up and call them facts

#1 and #2 are facts; can you dispute them? #3 - fact is i didnt know what had transpired, and i ASKED "what was this all about?" it appeared wrong that he threw his captain band and walked off the pitch, and i asked for clarification....

[ArmenJBX]

Two words:
Ice. Packs.

All over his shoulder/collar bone. Frings is hurt.

[TorontoGooner]

I'm going to stir the pot here. He's had enough. It's not the way he wanted to end his career, and who can blame him.

We may never see him play for us again. You heard it here first

[ensco]

We may never see him play for us again. You heard it here first

There is truth to this observation. I sense he likes the anonymity of playing here, likes our city ... but this is a waste of his time. Trade him to Chicago or something.

[DOMIN8R]

Rudi,

As per The Star this morning...

Making matters worse for TFC, Torsten Frings left the game in the 67th minute after colliding with teammate Doneil Henry in the D.C. goalmouth on a corner kick and injuring his shoulder. He threw down the captain’s armband on the field when leaving.
“I did not mean anything negative when I removed the armband,” Frings, who will be further evaluated, said in a statement post game. “I was in pain and had to leave the field for treatment.
“I have too much respect for the club, my teammates and the position for it to mean anything else.”

For what it's worth.

[OgtheDim]

I think his meaning of "club" might be different then Anselmi and MLSE's idea of what that means.

[lazyjason]

I was at the game and when Frings came to the sideline to be checked out I saw him say "broken" and then they sent him back out! Shortly after that he walked off the field and right into the locker room. It was clear something was wrong and I think, yes he was frustrated he couldn't help his team being hurt and all, but at the same time I think he was pissed at the Coach for keeping him in there.

[DR HOLLIDAY]

I was at the game and when Frings came to the sideline to be checked out I saw him say "broken" and then they sent him back out! Shortly after that he walked off the field and right into the locker room. It was clear something was wrong and I think, yes he was frustrated he couldn't help his team being hurt and all, but at the same time I think he was pissed at the Coach for keeping him in there.

He was angry at being hurt thats for sure, he tried to stay on the pitch because he waved that he was gonna try and stay on........If he has a broken collar bone, then it is a very painful injury that hurts a lot when you move.......TFC and Frings have had nothing but bad luck this year.

[Rudy]

I was at the game and when Frings came to the sideline to be checked out I saw him say "broken" and then they sent him back out! Shortly after that he walked off the field and right into the locker room. It was clear something was wrong and I think, yes he was frustrated he couldn't help his team being hurt and all, but at the same time I think he was pissed at the Coach for keeping him in there.

i think that's exactly what happened. they tried to push to keep him there, and he got pisseed since he was in pain, and said f that, im walkin out. not cool.

[denime]

i think that's exactly what happened. they tried to push to keep him there, and he got pisseed since he was in pain, and said f that, im walkin out. not cool.

Stop exaggerating FFS,No one pushed him back,he was asked to stay a bit longer until change is ready.

Why people like to make the fucking stories out of nothing is beyond me.

[ensco]

Stop exaggerating FFS,No one pushed him back,he was asked to stay a bit longer until change is ready.

Why people like to make the fucking stories out of nothing is beyond me.

Disagree with the all knowing tone of this. You wait until a change is ready if it's a minor knock. Not if the player is really hurt. So it's probably a sign/symptom of a communication problem, for sure. Is it more than that? You seem to be sure it's not. I don't know.

It was a pretty public display, he was pissed, it wasn't just the armband toss, when Frings put that ball out of touch to come off, it almost hit the Cinesphere. Then he stormed to the room. Nobody knows if it was just the situation, or something more, but there are reasons for wondering. Dero sure noticed it in his postgame comments.

[Beach_Red]

Well, Frings has stayed longer than Laurent Robert or Olivier Teliby....

[RedDevils]

I'd love to know the dynamic between a German legend like Frings (with a short fuse) and a Dutch management team. I'm sure we have a German or Dutch member who can expand on how the two peoples feel about each other, at least when it comes to football .

[bigredone]

I'd love to know the dynamic between a German legend like Frings (with a short fuse) and a Dutch management team. I'm sure we have a German or Dutch member who can expand on how the two peoples feel about each other, at least when it comes to football .

Leave the past in the past.

Robben staying with Bayern and even though Ribery punched him it was a French fist on a German team. Van Perise and Kuyt may be playing for German teams soon. The Germans are very good at integrating people to there way, Podolski!!!!!


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns...up2010&cc=null

[Roogsy]

That's the point though. It doesn't make a difference if that is the bulk of your "support".

[Yohan]

That's the point though. It doesn't make a difference if that is the bulk of your "support".

No offence dude, but this sounds like we shouldn't be giving charity money to feed starving African children b/c it only prolongs their suffering.

[Roogsy]

No offence dude, but this sounds like we shouldn't be giving charity money to feed starving African children b/c it only prolongs their suffering.

Then you're missing the point. Give all the money you want, cheer all you want. But don't delude yourself into thinking you are making a difference. Making a difference requires a helluvalot more effort. It demands standing up for something and getting involved. Cheering is almost the least you can do. Kind of like giving $20 a month to charity.

[Fort York Redcoat]

Then you're missing the point. Give all the money you want, cheer all you want. But don't delude yourself into thinking you are making a difference. Making a difference requires a helluvalot more effort. It demands standing up for something and getting involved. Cheering is almost the least you can do. Kind of like giving $20 a month to charity.

Doing nothing is always easier than doing something. The hard part is convincing people one is doing nothing for a reason.

[Roogsy]

Doing nothing? Who said do nothing? Classic strawman argument.