'fire tom anselmi' tifo?
Would they let it stay up on the fence?
We need to make clear that he is the problem.
Burn him in effigy outside BMO?
'fire Tom Anselmi' chants?
Corporations don't like to piss off their customers, and TFC really does make an effort to make your experience positive.
why fire Tom Anselmi?
All he did in 2010 in the end of the season is realize he had no bloody clue on who to hire, so he hired a consultant to advice him on what to do, he then rolled out the dough for the coaches, for 2 more designated players, and a $21 million dollar training facility and academy. He does not get involved directly into who signs with the team or what players the team goes after.
Would you have rather he act like a Jerry Jones or the late Al Davis or Daniel Snyder?
"Corporations don't like to piss off their customers, and TFC really does make an effort to make your experience positive."
You think TFC is bad, my pair of seasons costs less than a pair of platinum tickets to 1 Leafs game and look how they have done post lock-out
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You answered your own question.Originally Posted by prizby
Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
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Banner needs to be flown again.
I found a pic of it here - http://www.flickr.com/photos/lipsofcrimson/4552684267/
An even better pic is that of the 2 or 3 Leafs - sitting 50 feet away - laughing at it.
This is my favourite. Anselmi is a corporate puppet. No sense going after him.
Fuck the fire Tom Anselmi tifo ...
I know some will scoff .. but seriously we need this ...
SELL THE TEAM tifo.
MLSE get the fuck out.
Agreed. that tifo I want!
SELL THE TEAM!
MLSE GET THE FUCK OUT!
Lets make it happen guys
Last edited by rocktml; 04-23-2012 at 08:23 AM.
1. Maybe. It depends on his mood that day. Or that of his underlings. Or a near minimum wage security guard not getting the memo about what is allowed on said day. If that fails, we can claim the banner was smuggled in (like they do in Serbia). This will of course lessen the message.
2. He says he wants to win. Is that not good enough for you Sky?.
3. Not recommended. The FO love to cite fire code regulations. We should all just sit quietly and observe the rules. We have a team in Big League Sawker. Just be happy with that.
4. You don't ever want to direct a chant at Anselmi. He will swagger up to you with a gait that is a cross between George Jefferson and a penguin. Very menacing. He might even challenge you to direct verbal confrontation, or dare I say something that might even be construed as an invitation to fisticuffs. He may feel like he overstepped after that though, and invite you down to reel spawts and buy you lunch on his dime. He will reiterate how bad he wants to win, and what a bad decision signing JDG was. Sorry ensco I don't mean to imitate your fictional diary. As always, looking forward to the next installment.
5. "We keep screwing up, and you keep bringing your voices".
Last edited by RedRum; 04-23-2012 at 03:20 AM.
yes, that will change things on the pitch, because the formation and tactics are all Anselmi's fault.
Here's a song for that TIFO. I posted this in the Songs and Chants area but thought I would share for the registered users.
Just About Had Enough
When I see Ansel-mi
I want to bang my head
I've just about had enough
I've just about had enough
All the cash you took from me
And all the things you said
I've just about had enough
I've just about had enough
We slip and slide
And you have no clue
And I just have seen enough, so go f*ck ...
you do do do de do do do
No they would not. Anti Mo banners were taken in the past. I'm pretty sure this would be the same. It's about tone, though. If it was a simple "Anselmi Out!" it may go unnoticed.
Not our banner.
This is the most doable but not many people like to sing these days.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
But can 6 managers all have been wrong? And 100+ players all sucked? (they didn't suck, they underperformed WITH US) Why do said players go to other teams and thrive?
I could be totally wrong, but what else explains it? Bad managers? <-Tommy boy still at fault. Lack of soccer knowledge <- Tom. Lack of scouting/spending/freedom of managers <- all Tom.
It is looking less and less like correlation and more and more like causality.
Other than Toronto having 'bad mojo' I don't see any other reasonable explanation.
well, 5 of those managers were under the control of Mo Johnston...i don't think we need to further expand on that. the sixth manager has had a season and a half, and quite frankly, we are moving backwards in terms of results.
football descisions are NOT made by Anselmi, and the fact he is now the 'target' of your wrath just smells of desperation for blame. you are desperate for one simple reason....the obvious course of action is to fire the manager, and that is percieved as a 'back to square 1' mentality.
firing Anselmi will do nothing for TFC.
So what will? 7 is a lucky number, maybe coach #7 will work.
Maybe we need a ritual sacrifice before every game.
Was BMO field built on a cursed Indian Burial Ground?
I would say AT LEAST 90% of people on here know more about soccer and TFC than I do. But I don't see anything else that is common in all this failure.
I would love to see Saputo come and buy up TFC and own two franchises, maybe Galon Weston Jr. is super into soccer and wants to buy TFC, who knows, there aren't really plenty of billionaires around who can cough up the $150m or so that TFC is likely worth ($100m for next franchise says MLS) so LIKELY MLSE will own them for the foreseeable future OR they start getting 5k fans out to each game, accrue a bunch of debt and get sold on the cheap to someone who cares.
The only consistent thing between season 1 and today is Tom. The various comments that he has no impact with what happens on the field is nonsense. He controls the pruse strings so directly or indirectly he has control over the decisions that lead to the hiring, firing and releasing of players, coaches and backroom staff. He isn't picking the team on game day but his decisions are helping to pick the players.
I don't doubt his commitment to winning. He is a sports guy who would love nothing more than to see the teams he works for (and likely supports) win. I also don't doubt his commitment to his own best interest. He wants to be the President of 3 championship teams. Who in his place wouldn't want to? No doubt his salary is tied to overall revenue and profits so if the Raptors, TFC and the Leafs were to have long cup runs there would be increased revenue from food, ticket sales, jerseys... which would line his pocket.
My belief is that Tom and his head office team just don't know how to recognize managment talent. They have consistently hired coaches, managers and back room staff who can't seem to identify what they need to win on all their three professional teams. They have no long term vision.
Whether Anselmi is directly responsible for the abysmal product on the pitch or not is irrelevant at this point. Once the sale of MLSE officially transpires this summer Anselmi will be moving on anyway.
ya i was going to say didn't MLSE sell the teams to Rogers recently?? kind of makes this thread pointless.
Nope. Teacher's Pension is selling their share in MLSE. MLSE live and breathes and continues to be the owner.
Nothing will change. Only corporate musical chairs.
It's common knowledge that Peddie has been advocating for Anselmi to take over his position. Not sure how cut and dry this is. He is a MLSE man through and through.
Fingers and toes crossed!
One can only hope the new owners will do better than the Pen$ion Fund. The Jays aren't too bad this year.
Rogers is a forward looking company, I wish Ted Rogers was still alive because he didn't give a crap about quarterly numbers if he knew something would pay off years down the road (a personal business hero) he didn't even like baseball but bought the Jays because he knew it was a good business decision to get to the hearts of the people.
Hopefully that isn't all lost now he is gone.
I still like the idea of TFC being a fan owned team...
Apathy in the form of empty seats will do more for your cause than a tifo.
i don't care anymore. i want to see a club statement.
i want to see a "we're sorry". if seattle can refund tickets after a blowout we can get a fucking apology.
Seattle season ticket holder fans got free tickets to games like Chelsea and refund for a blow out game, while we pay $115 and up just to see Real Madrid and ticket increases for 5 years of filled with many blowouts and continues awful performance. Wow something just seems wrong here!
Do not agree.
Anselmi did the right thing by hiring Klinsmann, and hired what we ALL thought was a good head coach. It just hasn't worked out for Winter.
Winter has to go, Anslemi can stay. I have no issue with Anselmi.
Anselmi just got a new position Jan 1 right?
Somehow I think that means more spin to us and less responsibility to the results and only looking at the bottom line.
I don't think Anselmi has a new position, he is in the running to be Peddie's replacement but still in the same role.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it guys?
Didn't we ALL agree than getting Klinsmann in as a consultant was a fantastic idea?
Didn't wee ALL agree that signing Winter, De Klerk, and Mariner was a great idea?
These were both Anselmi's idea, and we all LOVED them at the time!
Anselmi hasn't done much wrong, if you ask me!
Winter just hasn't turned out to be the answer in the head coach department. All we need to do is fire Winter, and find a replacement. Everything else...the system, total football, Anselmi and his ideas, can all stay. It's as simple as that!
If ANY of us were in the position of Anselmi, we would have ALL done the same as him, and we all agree with him! Getting in Klinsmann was a great idea!
Anselmi just has to do the right thing again now, and fire Winter ASAP.
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