How much of his poor play is lack of adjustment and integration into the team and how much is that he is just a poor player?
Aceval
How much of his poor play is lack of adjustment and integration into the team and how much is that he is just a poor player?
I think he is adjusting. I'll give him some time. The one who has run out of time for me is Mr. Julian De Guzman. Aceval gets a pass for some dumb mistakes, JDG gets my disgust for that stupid tackle. Captain my ass.
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110% agreement on JDG. He is dead to me.Originally Posted by Jack
Adjusting or not, his decision to try to step in front of Gomez instead of staying goal side was terrible. A centre back in any youth league wouldn't have made that mistake. I think Henry should get his shot.
What a waste of time and money JDG has been. I don't want to shit on one of our own. I think there is far too much of that on this board, but his time here is over.
He is the last real relic of the MoJo era and the big money and the excuses and the "just wait for him to settle in" has all gone on waaaayyyyyy too long.
Get rid now. Use DP slot for a CB and pay big if you have to.
June/July say goodbye to JDG please. Enough is enough.
I can't disagree with this.
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If JDG gets bought out does is his salary still count against the cap?
Now that's a topic worth discussing.
just imagine if Caicedo was still here - both him and Aceval on the backline.
I hope Aceval can turn it around
lol, If you were a Canadian you wouldn't think that :P ... Saying that, his time for TFC is done for me.
From MLS Roster Rules:
(D) BUYOUT OF GUARANTEED CONTRACT
Teams may have the ability to buyout one guaranteed player as follows:
- A Team may buy out one (1) guaranteed player (including a DP’s) contract during the off-season and free up the corresponding budget space. Such a buyout is at the particular MLS Team’s own expense.
- A Team may not free up budget space with a buyout of a player’s salary budget charge during the season. Such a buyout will be conducted by the League and count on a Club’s budget in a manner consistent with current MLS guidelines
http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/conten...nd-regulations
(D) BUYOUT OF GUARANTEED CONTRACT
Teams may have the ability to buyout one guaranteed player as follows:
- A Team may buy out one (1) guaranteed player (including a DP’s) contract during the off-season and free up the corresponding budget space. Such a buyout is at the particular MLS Team’s own expense.
- A Team may not free up budget space with a buyout of a player’s salary budget charge during the season. Such a buyout will be conducted by the League and count on a Club’s budget in a manner consistent with current MLS guidelines.
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We have to give Aceval much more time. He's in a new city in a new country, playing in a new league with a new team. He's going to take time to fully adjust to the league/lifestyle/team. I know he's made some mistakes so far, but we can't judge him yet.
Same goes for any new player, and especially one who has moved to Canada from a foreign land.
I wish him the very best in his future endeavors. He needs to play somewhere other than TFC.
He's still better than Andy Iro. People just have short memories.
With the ball he's OK.....without it he's crap.
So, not a good defender.
He need to go away from TFC and the NT. Hes been horrible more than he has been average. Never have I liked a player so much then disliked him much more than I do JDG over the past few seasons. He is getting worse every year.
Aceval had two massive mistakes and more. The leash will be short.
I wouldnt miss either if they never wore tfc red again.
better than iro, that is worth a gold star and that's about it
Aceval is a bit of a bull in a china shop. He lacks pace and when paired up with Harden we are way too slow in the middle of defence. We must remember that not too many clubs in MLS could survive without two key central defenders for a season, Cann and Williams, most teams just do not have strength in depth in that department. Henry is coming along, he is still prone to defensive lapses but I see potential. Would be nice to be able to put Frings back into the midfield upon his return though.
Just when I thought TFC couldn't find any worse CBs to play for the club, they trot out Aceval.
Honestly, who plays the offside trap on a throw in? THERE'S NO OFFSIDES ON A THROW!
And don't get me started on that handball...
Interesting to note that Harden has been very good lately (even on the Gomez goal at halftime, I blame the lack of pressure on the ball, you can't expect CBs alone to handle a situation like that)
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I hope ppl realize Cann and Willams were slow and our backline was horroble with them too. They are not a resolution to crap defending. Cant leave your cb's exposed in MLS. But hey, our goal differential proves me wrong, right?
I'm willing to give Aceval a half season before I start judging. He did, after all, score a great goal last week. And I still believe what matters is having a good partner. Harden + Aceval is not a good pairing. You can afford to have a guy like Aceval there if you've got a beast of a CB next to him. But both have holes (most MLS players do), so without a strong partner he looks worse. I think Aceval was signed to be the offensive CB we've always needed (we've never had any that can pass), but to go along with a more stay at home guy like Caicedo or Cann...
JDG? I don't care about him anymore. He makes a lot of rookie mistakes for a guy who is making nearly 2 million a year. He's had good games here and there, but is not at the level of a DP that we need. A guy like Frings has done everything exactly as we need in a DP. Koevermans has 8 goals in 14 games. I can't criticize those two as DPs. But JDG has been a waste of the ~400K cap hit.
I'm mixed on Harden. His game against San Jose at BMO was pretty poor. He is the bare minimum as a defender really. And he cannot make a pass to save his life. And he always chooses the absolute last ditch solution on plays. He's a good backup player but wouldn't start on any MLS team.
Both of our CB's combined cost us 4 goals last night.
As much as I'd like to shit on Aceval because he is a shit player, I have to be fair and say that both of them are a fucking disaster.
Let's not tear into our own player immediately again.
Did he make a few bad plays last night? Yes.
Should he be kicked off the team? No.
People often have knee jerk reactions. He was the one who scored last week to give us a fighting shot last night. I'm not excusing him for his play last night but just want people to remember he isn't only what you saw yesterday.
Finally, someone who saw the same thing I saw. Calling offside or blaming that on Harden is avoiding the real issue, which is that our midfield and forwards allowed their backline and midfield all the time and space in the world to lob perfect balls over the top.
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Our lack of team defence exposed our CBs.
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aceval was a bad aquisition, maybe give him more time but I dont think he has what it takes, for a chilean footballer his technical ability is suspect. I think with time emory is the guy. He's good with the ball at his feet and athletic just needs to tightenup a bit in certain areas but if thats the case we need a stud Rcb with good speed, technical ability and great reader of the game. I think aceval especial in a 4 man backline is in over his head.
Last edited by DoubleUp; 04-05-2012 at 10:04 AM.
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