I'm so happy I get to make this thread!
So, what do you guys think? What are our chances? They pummelled Seattle into dust in their second match, but Seattle won the first one.
Another chance at an upset?
- Scott
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CCL: Santos Laguna @ Toronto FC First Leg Pre-Match/Match Thread
I'm so happy I get to make this thread!
So, what do you guys think? What are our chances? They pummelled Seattle into dust in their second match, but Seattle won the first one.
Another chance at an upset?
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
I am not feeling as positive about this one as I was the LA game.
Can we beat them? Can any MLS team?
Watching the Sounders game highlights made me sweat.
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Yeah, it was pretty ugly. And their record at home is unnerving.Originally Posted by Roogsy
It may end here, but goddamn it, I want to believe! haha
- scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
if we could only get a draw away, people will go nuts over here
I think that in the present form we can upset them. Hopefully we can another CB or our weak link ( I will not name him but his last name starts with H and the first digit of his shirt is 2) at the back will be exposed.
BUT we need to switch the 4-3-3 into a 4-2-3-1 Mou Inter style, with the wingers playing deep. Soolsma can do it, Johnson I think can do it, Plata???? I am not sure.
i agree, as long as one of our CBs get's his shit together (i won't name him either, but i'll give you a hint: it's TY HARDEN), we'll be fine. seriously, that man is a fucking liability.
Just hoping for a positive result at home just like when TFC managed a draw against Pumas last year.
But anything goes in Torreon.
I am really looking forward to this, playing a truly good team by any standard in an important game.
WE WILL NEED TO DEFEND. Score at home, and defend, defend, defend away. GRIND A VICTORY OUT.
I don't know if we're good enough in the back. I don't think we did enough in the off-season to address the defence situation, even though I will admit the team did try.
defend is something that is not in our vocabulary nor playing anything else but 343
^ That is the issue. We cannot play an open game Santos will kill us.
Yep. Their passing is like 5 times better than any MLS team at home. It was scary how they ripped apart Seattle with their fluid passing game.
The key to this game for Toronto is Danny K. Why? It's air battle time. Mexican teams generally hate and don't deal well with balls in the air. Crash the box and launch balls in the air and hope Danny K or Johnson or whoever can get a head onto it. Set pieces will also be key. (this is for away at Santos Laguna)
I think 4-3-3 can work at BMO Field, esp with JDG gaining more match fitness. Stifle Santos midfield and isolate their strikers
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Danny was all but invisible against LA, except for that thumping header he sent wide in the second half (but was offside anyway). Easily the hardest header I've seen from a TFC player ever.
The problem is with the delivery. Decent crosses into the box from our wide players are the exception rather than the rule.
a ha ha heh he hoo.. ha
Tickets on sale tomorrow. That was fast. Just got e-mail.
I truly think that Winter will be forced to change the play, but it goes against the very principle of *(sick of using you know what formation). This is were it will prove if Winter is the right man for the job
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I don't know if there's THAT much riding on the line in a game against a team like Santos.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
that is not what I meant but it is a sign
He may not get a bigger game. Santos or Barca, this is not an exhibition game, and we have the players we have and winter has to go out and try to get a result. Sure it will be tough, but he has to make it competitive. We have to be in it.
APOEL is in the final 8 in Europe. It does not have nearly the talent that the any of the other 7 have, but the right tactics and team play can take you far in any team sport, particularly football.
We are in the finals, I expect BUTTER.
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Alright! You've convinced me! Haha.
Man, how apeshit will we all go if we were to seriously make the CCL Final?
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
Apeshit haha
Alexander Keith's will be our new sponsor
That would be fucking great. I would cry.
[ I meant semi-finals I got ahead of myself]
Agreed that this will be one of those matches were Winter will have to step up as the tactician.
Holy hyperbole. Winter just beat the MLS Champions, and you say that?
I'm just looking not to get embarrassed against Santos. Anything else is bonus.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
I am looking for us to beat Santos. PERIOD.
oh yes, admit it we had luck on our side on both games
I see, if we win, it's "luck," but if we lose, it's "fire Winter?"
I'm not going to play that game.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
You can't win can you?
Hey, I have been 'away' for a week. What's new? Did I miss anything?
Not holding my breath...but, Cruz Azul did knock them out last year, and we beat Cruz Azul on aggregate in the group stage. Not the same circumstances, but, its something.
I beleive we are 1W-2D-1L against Mexican opposition. Not optimistic about this one, but who knows.
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