Voyageurs are reporting that QPR have signed Dylan Carreiro and Michael Petrasso...
Huge blow to TFC academy if true, Petrasso is class
TFC Academy Stars Plucked by QPR
Voyageurs are reporting that QPR have signed Dylan Carreiro and Michael Petrasso...
Huge blow to TFC academy if true, Petrasso is class
Hmmm.... I wonder if Danny Dichio, being a big QPR guy, had anything to do with it?
This calls for a riot.
Does TFC receive anything by this move.
Or is it just two players gone for nothing
Nope, this has Marc Bircham all over it. He coached both players last month in Costa Rica for Canada U18s (U16s) as they romped over the Ticos, was really impressed by the whole team. He's QPR's U18 assistant coach.Originally Posted by Whoop
Wow.. Academy products are being poached? Do you have a link?
We have to expect to happen more often in the future unless TFC makes a proper contracts with the kids instead of those letters.
Considering that both of them are U18 and Canadian citizens for them to move there parents have to go with them,so I would like to see the link that confirms this bad news.
QPR still has to pay TFC certain amount of $$$,not big $$$ though.
I assume this is pretty irrelevant to us though. I'm guessing that money is just money into TFC's coffers, and not money that can get converted into allocation.
My bad.
It's in a thread on the Voyageurs page but the info comes straight from Dylan Carreiro's twitter talking to a Canadian teammate
I think that's great news. Whether we're compensated or not, it shows that the academy is doing well. If these guys have a shot at one day playing EPL, then we should all be applauding the move. While TFC may not gain from their success, it could attract more top players to the academy as a result. And the national program can only get better with more kids receiving elite level development.
+1.....
Lots of narrow minded people posting in this thread.
I know Petrasso very well, played with my little brother for the Woodbridge soccer Club. Great player, was a real talent.
Will do very well.
Real shame that we lost Petrasso, don't know too much about the other kid.
Ultimately, it is great that these guys are quality enough to garner contracts overseas, but its a shame that many of the players coming through aren't making onto our roster.
Aleman, Alderson, Teibert, these two, and a few more that I'm missing.
Are these fully pro contracts or are these kids still doing residency?
How is this possible?
When the Keven Aleman thing happened, it was because he wouldn't committ his future with the academy and sign with the academy. That is why he was dropped from Toronto FC Academy. Wouldn't this have meant that Carreiro and Petrasso would have been contract bound with TFC Academy?
Think these guys will get the development and playing time they deserve at QPR? As much as at TFC Academy? I'm asking honestly...
I'm just speculating here, but there is the potential that the contracts are not legally enforceable.
Great news for both of those kids and for Canada to get them into EPL clubs (even if its temp they are getting better as as club on a trend).
Petrasso is looking like he can be a legit player in years and is still really young.
It would be good if TFC could get a little cash in exchange for the kids but this is the beginning of what I hope will be more kids going to develop in Canada and worldwide. Now TFC can bring in two more kids and start developing them.
This is a fair trade with the stature of an EPL team. Letting these kids go won't mean we'll be selling them to change our senior club squad right away.
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That just means QPR will have to pay for them. Dunno where that money goes (to MLSE, to the academy, allocation?) but whatever. I'm waiting to judge this until something official is said. Too many questions. Which team are they going to in QPC? What, if anything did we get back? Is this ACTUALLY happening or just a rumor or a thing that might happen? Guess we'll find out soon enough.
im just trying to understand if you can be poached like this, then why didn't aleman just sign and wait to get poached
I have no idea how kids in the academy are handled with respect to leaving and going to another clubs academy. But I think we will see more of this as the academy program grows. The goal of the academy is to provide the best environment for player development. Some of those kids will make their way to TFC and some very good ones will advance to bigger clubs that will provide them better opportunities.
It will always suck to see talented kids leave the TFC Academy. On the positive side, the more that leave for bigger clubs means the academy is doing its job. That's good for Canadian soccer. Hopefully TFC can benefit financially from it as well. That is important for future investment in the academy.
I think TFC should do what Oldham did (with Micah Richards). They don't need the couple thousand they will get...but take a 20% cut in his next transfer fee $$$ (should either kid make an impact and grab the attention of a bigger club)
Regardless of the law, I am not in favour of any system that "commits" a kid to TFC or anyone else below the age of 18.
I also have to question in general the wisdom of parents who send their high school age kids far from home without proper support. Not saying it happened in this case, but it happens a lot. Canadian junior hockey has the same problem.
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We better see compensation. Otherwise what's the point of an academy.
agreed. or else what's the point of developing players for others for free?
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I have a question, if TFC receives some sort of monetary compensation or some sort of performance or appearance bonus or percentage off his next transfer, whatever happens, does MLS still get the 25% off all transfers?
As far as the MLS Academies, are kids that sign with the academies also contracted to MLS or with the individual clubs?
i'm not calling you naive, i'm calling this thought naive.
YES this does signal TFC is scouting and training good talent which does in turn make us look better, but we're training it for OUR team, not anyone elses. we're paying for our scouts, trainers, and a new facility only to have someone poach our talent by saying "you can play for a bigger club".
when you say "it may attract more top players as a result", to me this means "it may attract more top players that want to use TFC as a stepping stone". it may do wonders for the national team playing overseas, but i'd take club on the same level as country any day.
Don't feel too bad.
Good for country.
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