Today's News,Tuesday,Nov.21
Wow. We protected Iro. Didn't see that coming.
NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM
Matt Stinson not in either column? Did I miss some news about him?
*Edit: Never mind, local home growns cannot be selected.
NCAA moves to cut spring soccer:
http://www.examiner.com/soccer-in-na...ng-competition
Overall, the recommendation appears a misguided attempt to improve academic performance by targeting the wrong sports, sports with academically high-performing students instead of sports like football and basketball, which have a long history of academic violations.If this proposal is passed, it makes it even more clear that for a someone who wants to get into the pro game, an MLS academy is now a much better option than going to a U.S. college. It also means that fewer and fewer good players are going to end up in the SuperDraft. So TFC is going in the right direction to pour so much money into the academy.
Last edited by Oldtimer; 11-22-2011 at 08:06 AM.
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Iro has made a couple of really bad mistakes.
but I dont think he is a poor defender. . . Not sure why he is the new TFC whipping boy. . . Glad he is staying.
now. . Plata?
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I don't understand why we've protected two terrible centrebacks and left the other two exposed. Maybe Cann shows up on the other side because of salary, but Williams?
What is going on here?
maybe with Cann and Williams, their contract amounts are higher for next year. I know Williams was on $50K, but that could be a prorated number from $100K. Cann was making $124K, but probably is going to make a lot more this year.
mornin d.. STACHE.
jesus christ, where'd you park your time machine!?
mine looks nowhere near that impressive.
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suspect it could be one of two things
- the injuries are more severe than originally thought
- Winter/Mariner believe Harden/Iro will play much better next to a commanding CB
i gotta admit it surprised me too however i do have faith in the FO to sort out our CB situation. Dont forget Cann is also 31.
I like him but do think we have overrated him and his time at TFC.
On the other hand I have liked what little i saw from Williams
I'll take Cann and Williams over iro and harden, especially in Winter's vision of playing from the back. Unless he has two new CBs lined up and Iro and Harden are there for cover, I don't see the thinking behind it
According to my twitter feed Montreal has made quite a few backroom deals with other MLS clubs and that's the reason for some of these protected lists being what they are
me too....and he is only 25. Maybe his rehab from injury isn't on track right now and TFC assuming Montreal will take this into consideration.
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yeah, also that hes an international and may cost a bit (how much is his salary)?
Not much I disagree on with respect to who is and is not protected. You can only choose 11 out of your entire roster.
Winter & Mariner are protecting their core players and leaving those who are on the bubble, minimal impact player, on the way out, coming off injury, or too expensive unprotected. I do not foresee anyone being taken that would impact our roster at all.
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We can only lose one person too. Does anyone really think that losing one of those possible players would really set us back significantly (not incl. JDG, who I doubt Montreal would select given his massive salary)? I mean, if we lose Cann, we still have Williams. If we lose Williams, we still have Cann.
Also, we need to look at the whole unprotected player list from Montreal's perspective. They can only pick 10 guys. Why would one of two guys who had major injuries be one of their 10 picks? They already have signed a Colombian defender for a starting CB. Cann and Williams may not even be ready to start the season. If you look around the league there are far better and less risky options than these two.
I also see Harden and Iro protected because we just cannot afford to lose any more healthy defenders at this point.
I'm no sure any of the 4 are CB solutions. I like Cann, but he's terrible with the ball at his feet. We need a CB (or 2) that can play the ball out from the back. In addition to commanding the D, playing the ball out was one of the things Frings brought to the backline. There's no one there right now confident in doing that, and it's key to Winter's whole game.
I look at the list as good news. Both Ecks and Plata are on it. This suggests to me TFC believes they'll be signed.
50k.....
i definitely prefer wiliams or harden or iro
Williams Dicoy D $50,004.00 $50,004.00
Harden Ty D $65,000.00 $73,666.67
Cann Adrian D $123,996.00 $132,746.00
Iro Andy D $68,596.00 $87,346.00
^$50K prorated for last year - we don't know how much he will be making this year.
I hope we don't lose Marosovic or Soolsma....
Williams had a one-year 50k contract. He's out of contract as of January 1st, 2012. In the season-ending presser he said he needs about 4 more months of rehab. That would put him returning to training sometime in preseason plus however longer he needs to get back to match fitness. It is this uncertainty that led to him being unprotected. He likely won't be fit by the CCL game, and there's no chance Montreal would take him anyway.
I was also becoming a fan of Williams, I thought he was our best CB last season. Unfortunately his injury was the worst thing that could have happened to one-year contract player. I hope he can recover back to his old form and TFC sign him to another deal (he's not going to cost more than another 50k) because he had a lot of promise. But it doesn't look good because who knows how well he recovers from injury, and TFC will have certainly signed some replacement CB's by the start of the season.
The CB situation makes sense to me.
Harden and Iro are two serviceable backup CB's in the MLS. They are at the right salary point and and they both decent enough to fill in as backup. In this league you have to accept a drop in quality when you go to the depth players, and I think Harden and Iro are fine in that regard.
Leaving Cann and Williams unprotected - my guess is the plan is to replace one or both of them anyway, have doubts about them due to their injuries, or maybe have a backroom deal in place not to touch them.
Does anyone know when Montreal has to draft? Is there a set date?
Hope you are right... because this would be the best case scenario, since both Iro and Harden are low-cost back ups at best.
Marosovic is the player on the unprotected list that I hoping we don't loose as well...
I'm happy Winter has protected both Frei & Kocic - two solid keepers definitely proved its worth to us this season when Frei was hurt, and the fixture list with CCL picked up...
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
I'd use one of them as trade material. But before you move him out, you find another promising young keeper to replace him with as a backup.
Move him out for a spare part we could really use. Like a central defender.
If you have a suitable replacement for backup - absolutely.
But definitely don't let one just get pouched in the expansion draft.
Although, some managers believe to starting caliber keepers is essential to success - perhaps Winter is of that thought?
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
kinda feel like thats whats going to happen
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