Frei
Kocic
either
Frei or Kocic?
With one of our most important games EVER coming up soon who should play in goal?
Milos Kocic - Been very solid recently after replacing the injured Frei and keeping him out of the team.
Stefan Frei - Been a great player for us for a few years now, and one of the better MLS keepers, been injured a lot recently though.
Hmm how do I add a poll?
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I dont know if you can add one retroactively, you had to do it when you create the thread.Originally Posted by Island Man
Crap, on another forum I visit you have to do it afterwards.
Can a Mod add a poll please?
Good to have this as an issue. Prefer Frei but there is not much in it. Think he has better reflexes and pulls off saves that are beyond Kocic. Maybe what's worth exploring is why Winter might prefer Kocic. Better with the ball at his feet? More commanding in his box on crosses?
Tough call.
Kocic can handle MLS fine.. but has a brain fart everyy game (like today). its tough, but Frei is a top keeper in this league.
A good choice to have, yadda yadda...
I think Winter is giving Kocic a shot to see if he is good enough to be one number one next year. Winter mentioned at the town hall that he will be looking within the MLS to strengthen at the back in the off season and for that you need something of worth to trade. I think that will be Frei.
FACT!
I'm OK with either Frei or Kocic on Tuesday. I'll go with what Winter sees as the better choice based on practices, Dallas' strengths, etc.
Both our keepers are good, each have some great advantages but also some disadvantages.
i kringe on free kicks with Kocic in the net; otherwise either or
Brain fart?
You mean bad pass to Harden?
If every missed pass during the game is brain fart than 99% of MLS players have several brain farts per game.Harden should let that ball go out,trow in for Phily,big F..in deal.
Back to question,I would prefer Kocic. I think right now our defenders are more confident with him in the net than Frei.
It's awesome that we can have this debate.
If Frei is even still slightly injured or off his game at all I'd feel confident to go with Kocic on this one.
Either one will live up to the task though.
Many think he is a top keeper in this league that's why I think we should trade him. If he's as good as many say we should get something half decent in return. Kococ is of equal ability to Frei in my opinion and at about 1/5 of the price.
As we approach the biggest game of TFC's history, let's look back at the NYRB game which saw an in-form Brian Edwards start ahead of Stefan Frei. We lost 5-0.
I think, in games like this, Frei needs to start. Kocic may be in form, but Frei is a constant, and one who has proven himself. Kocic has been more than competent this season, but we have yet to put him in high-pressure situations.
Stefan Frei to start against Dallas, in my humble opinion.
I think it's going to be Kocic, purely because he started tonight against Philly. Winter might want some continuity with the goal keeper position. When was the last time Frei played a game?
keepers in the MLS are a dime a dozen, but we've got two close to the top.
i still think frei has a bit of an issue commanding the back when he wants something. he has better reflexes but kocic has better control.
when it comes to starting one over the other, maybe this is a motivation tool for frei. winter knows he has stock in the MLS so he knows he can get something good in a trade.
frei's always been the guy no one would want traded, but id imagine we could get 95% of the players we might want with him alone. maybe this is his way of telling him he needs to step up his game, or risk losing the starting spot/get traded.
We haven't had a blowout with Kocic and I don't think that's a coincidence. I think Kocic is better organizing players on the pitch and much more vocal. Frei is still a fantastic shot stopper.
Last edited by PopePouri; 10-15-2011 at 08:01 PM.
the brainfart was Harden, he should have just put the ball out of bounds, if he did we probably would have won the game.
Currently, Kocic is the in form keeper. Gotta go with the in form keeper.
I agree but last time did this, 5-0 whipping at giants stadium
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Will be interesting to see who gets protected in the expansion draft.
I agree with you in principle, but in fairness to Kocic, he has performed extremely well in high pressure situations throughout the CCL, so he has also proven himself.
Frei is our number one keeper. However, I think Kocic should start because he is in top form at the moment, and Frei has not had the opportunity to regain his form since suffering consecutive injuries in his last two starts.
Frei has done well for a number of years, Kocic has done well for a number of games, Frei is number 1.
frei baby..
no question..
I think whoever got the start against philly, will get the start on tuesday, no point resting a goalie when they haven't played for 2 weeks. so i guess Kocic.
am I on board with that decision? I don't know really, I'd be fine with either of them.
I think the team plays better with kocic, he seems to be better at coming for crosses and that gives them more confidence? or maybe it's the case that they know frei isn't behind them so subconsciously try harder.
it may well be that kocic has just had more time with the new more solid defence. Frei showed last year that he's much more decisive and bettter with crosses when behinsd an organised defence.
long term frei better than kocic, for now though I'd go kocic, and I think him playing against philly means winter feels the same.
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