Let's see Koevermans was able to crack the Dutch national team who have always had good strikers.
Sure while the Eredivisie as a whole isn't as strong as Serie A, playing with AZ and PSV, Koevermans played against some good CBs at Ajax, Twente, etc. plus let's not forget in European competition.
And while Nelson Rivas is a good player I'm sure, he only played 16 matches in 4 years with Inter. Didn't Stevanovic play at Inter too?
In the end, I'm sure Koevermans doesn't fear Nelson Rivas.
He's made 16 appearances for Inter since 2007 then 17 while on loan the last two years in a lower division.
If we signed this guy all hell would break loose on these boards.
no, it was game seven of the stanley cup.Originally Posted by PopePouri
And we're talking about Danny fucking seven league goals in nine league games Koevermans here.
The man is a giant and should score 14 next year.
Lol, this is a funny thread!
So, who the f..uck is this "great" Rivas anyways?
Maybe if Rivas was playing in the Eredivisie he would have averaged more than 8 appearances a year the last 4 years.
He isn't being serious about Rivas is he?
Good signing (Isn't a DP btw) for Imapct, very quick, good header. Lacks concentration and communciation. Best defender in the MLS? top 5 maybe. We will see.
Would of liked him here tbh.
im gonna wait before i make my decision, relatively decent pedigree but nothing to go insane over and i think anyone calling Koevermans a waste or anyhting otherwise must be watching some other player than the one thats scored 7 goals in 9 games. delusions of grandeur to say the least.
So he's appeared (not even started) in 32 games in the past 4 seasons? Boy, the Impact better start getting that parade route ready. I'm with Gingster. Had we signed this guy, all hell would be breaking loose (I'd be FURIOUS personally). Which is to say, awesome! Fuck l'Impact
And NBF- who's DP slot would you have him take? JDG (who's played great since he had some competant players around him), Frings (the leader of this team, the most important player we've ever had), or Koevs (who has a strike rate of just under a goal a game)? If we aren't resigning JDG, I want a GOOD DP. A young south american, an up and comer, not someone parachuting in here.
Who really cares of Koev can't beat him one on one. As long as TFC as a whole can score, there won't be a problem. Football isn't about one or two players. There are eleven on the field. I'm sure Rivas on his own will stop TFC. We haven't even finished this season and people are already concerned? Sometimes I think people come here just to bash TFC. The truth of the matter is TFC realistically will add more players. Until this happens, don't bash the team. I trust the current FO to go out and get the players we need to win
theres nothing saying Koevs cant beat this guy on a one on one.
100% agree. I was just being hypothetical in response to a previous post. This guy could also destroy his knee getting off the plane and we don't even need to worry. I've never seen him play against Koevs (or anyone for that matter). My point is that let's not make decisions on who he can out play on our team until closer to April 7
LOL, Montreal (a team we'll play, what, four times tops next year) signs a DP centerback and all of a sudden, Danny Koevermans is useless for all of next season
Yep. This board gets a bit crazy sometimes.
I'll just stay out of this discussion and see how things play out next year.
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I'm defending my statements because I believe them to be true and as far as the comments I've made about Koevermans, I want to make the point that we make a signing in mid-season in 2011 and in the 2011 offseason another team makes a step forward to counter that signing.
Theres a constant evolution going on in MLS. The talent level has gotten better every year since the DP rule.
Eckersley, IMO would be someone worth the DP status, but he plays in a position that is of importance but not as important as the Centre Back position in MLS. Without offering money in exchange for a player in MLS there's not enough draft picks or players to pry away a good solid non DP Centre Back from a team.
So when teams like the Philadelphia Union and Vancouver Whitecaps sign DP Centre Backs it just goes to show that there's not enough quality Centre Backs in MLS. Imagine where the Vancouver White Caps would be without Jay DeMerit, yeah they're at the bottom of the league in the standings but they would be much worse if they hadn't signed someone reliable at the back. The whitecaps do suck but they also show confidence going forward on the attack, because they have DeMerit.
The Philadelphia Union on the other hand have managed to build on having a DP Centre Back and are one of the better teams in MLS due to the fact that they have found a combination of a DP Centre Back and good local centre back.IMO this is the direction we're heading with Iro on the team. All we need is a DP Centre Back.
As far as Rivas, I'm excited because we dont see players like Rivas being signed which leads me to believe that we will get rid of DeGuzman's contract and we will sign a DP Centre Back. Its evolution and if we dont make the move in the offseason we will make the move too late.
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/articl...-first-signing
two year contract plus option year
rumours says Rivas is not a DP
edit: confirmed not a DP
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ontent=2189398
Last edited by Yohan; 10-03-2011 at 07:31 PM.
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Philly does not have a DP CB (Carlos Valdez if you're talking about him)
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Montreal will fuck things up somehow. Ever since they fired the coach after the CCL run ended with the Santos Laguna collapse they haven't been the same.
Saputo can't buy a championship this time, and he keeps cronies like De Santis on the payroll despite a lack of success.
Things always look rosy at the beginning... remember when Vancouver signed World Cup defender Jay Demerit? Along with Rochat, everyone was saying that defense was gonna be their strength (shit, even I believed that in the spring). They ended up being one of the worst defensive teams in the league -- a little better than TFC and nobody would say Iro and Harden are anywhere close to Demerit and Rochat in talent. So Rivas could be good, he could end up being a flameout. Who knows -- it'll depend on whether his teammates are any good. And I don't trust Saputo and the boys will succeed.
Last edited by rocker; 10-03-2011 at 07:39 PM.
This is who they got....
Jay Demerit has appeared in 17 games so far this year, based on minutes, he has played 14.5 games, of the 30 leauge games VWFC has played...I hope Rivas puts up those same kind of numbers.
to be fair to DeMerit, he was often injured and even when playing not 100%. Rochat often played out of position as well
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
I still fully expect TFC to beat Montreal on opening day in their own stadium.
A team is more than 1 guy, no matter how talented, and I have little fear that the boyz in Montreal know what they are doing.
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This is getting OT, but with Koevermans the real test is can he continue to score once teams are more familiar with him? I tend to think that he will, but keep in mind this league has seen more than a few Maykel Galindo's aka guys who started off like houses on fire but were rendered useless once other teams had tape on them.
We don't even know what their team looks like yet
....a fan of Montreal by the sounds of it now that this ultimate signing is happening. I feel like I should be underlining something but just not sure how to use it as well.
im a fan of danny k based on what ive seen, but here's my perspective:
he's scored 7 goals in games that i could care less about. score in the CCL and score next season, if he can do that i'll base my judgement off of that. not off of points that don't mean anything.
back on topic, interesting signing. really sets the precedent for the way they want their team run, it could be partially because they see him as someone who can organize the backline, it could also be partially because theyre trying to gauge what'll be open for the expansion draft. personally speaking, it wouldve made more sense to sign him after the draft, no?
And I'm sure TFC will sign players this offseason to counter Nelson Rivas...
And help guys like Frings, Koevermans, Johnson, Marosevic, Frei, Dunfield, JDG, etc.
thats why he played for more than 1 game with dnipro
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