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    Default What have we been missing the last 5 years.

    The only consistent thing we can say about TFC is that they have been consistantly bad. But what is it exactly that this team has had going against them these past 5 years. Is it solely MoJo's fault? Is it injuries from bad training facilities, or bad training techniques provided by the team? Or is TFC just cursed?

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    Wins

    /end thread

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    Mojo for 4 of those years (and indirectly at fault for the 5 cuz if he hadnt fucked us for the other 4 we wouldnt have had to find a new coach for the 5th). MLSE is to blame a bit for the 5th too as they waited too long to find Winter. Shoulda been in place long before January

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    No, it's always been higher up than the GM level - TFC needs a president, always has and still does.

    Who's going to evaluate the job being done by the soccer guys now? Another consultant? Someone at MLSE?

    TFC needs a president with a lifetime of experience in the soccer world who answers directly to the board.

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    Intelligence.

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    A thread to state the obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfitz View Post
    A thread to state the obvious.
    BWAHAHAHAHA

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    Some sort of stability would be nice

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    a mascot throwing t-shirts into the stands

    the crucial last piece

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    A fanbase that cares. Murphy's Law thus dictates we will suck forever.

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    A team. MoJo collect players that he could get and they were seldom the ones we needed. When we had a glut of central mids and now wide players, he'd get another central mid.

    That, and we have never had a good CB except when Tebeily was here and that was to short of a stint to count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadlocks View Post
    Some sort of stability would be nice
    this helps too.
    Stability with people who know what they are doing

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    Wins.

    That was my immediate response. Now I'll go back and read the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2cazz View Post
    Wins

    /end thread
    hahahaha...first post.

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    Seriously though. It definitely comes down to stability. There's been so much turnover, how do you learn to play with/for somebody?

    also, this is Toronto.

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    IMO the team has been missing alot of things, but mainly what it has been missing is vision. There were alot of rumours floating around year 2-4 about big signings but they never materialized. I think the big name signings like Dichio, Robinson, and Brennan can be compared to the new singings of Eckersley(loan), Koevermans, and Frings when you look at the increase in talent level in the MLS from 2007 to 2011.

    If anything this team looks like it could be on the verge of moving over that rebuilding hump in 2012. I think Aron Winter has realized that the team he has now is good enough to go Head-to-Head with the rest of the league and is only a few key signings away from competing with the best and making a run to the playoffs similar to the TFC 2009 team.



    What Have We Been Missing The Last 5 Years?.....other than depth...this=>


    The Best of 2007:

    ---------------------Stamatopolous---------------------
    Wynne------Marshall-------------(Missing)------Dunivant
    --------------------------------------------------------
    (Missing)-----Edu---------------Robinson--------Brennan
    --------------------------------------------------------
    ------------Dichio---------------(Missing)---------------

    The Best of 2008:


    ------------------------Sutton--------------------------
    Wynne------(Missing)------------(Missing)-------Brennan
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ricketts-----Guevara-------------Robinson------(Missing)
    --------------------------------------------------------
    -------------Dichio---------------Barrett----------------

    Best of 2009:

    -------------------------Frei---------------------------
    Wynne------Serioux-------------(Missing)-------Brennan
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Cronin------Guevara-------------Robinson------DeRosario
    --------------------------------------------------------
    -------------Barrett-------------(Missing)---------------

    Best of 2010:

    -------------------------Frei---------------------------
    (Missing)------Attakora----------Cann----------(Missing)
    --------------------------------------------------------
    (Missing)----LeBrocca----------DeGuzman------DeRosario
    --------------------------------------------------------
    -------------Barrett------------(Missing)---------------

    Best of 2011:

    -------------------------Frei---------------------------
    Eckersley---------Iro----------(Missing)--------(Missing)
    -------------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------Frings--------------------------
    -------------DeGuzman---------Johnson----------------
    Martina--------------------------------------------Plata
    ----------------------Koevermans----------------------
    Last edited by [NBF]; 08-30-2011 at 08:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beach_Red View Post
    No, it's always been higher up than the GM level - TFC needs a president, always has and still does.

    Who's going to evaluate the job being done by the soccer guys now? Another consultant? Someone at MLSE?

    TFC needs a president with a lifetime of experience in the soccer world who answers directly to the board.
    So much THIS.

    Look, Mo Johnston didn't hire himself. And he didn't decide for himself that he would stay with the organization for 4 years.

    Rather, it was Tom Anselmi who offered him his position and let him stick with it despite the abysmal results and growing dressing room divisions.

    From Day 1 we have needed a dedicated TFC Club President with the experienced required to compete and thrive in this league.
    Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.

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    Tom Anselmi is to blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    Tom Anselmi is to blame.
    Other than losing, This guy has been one of the only consistent things around TFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermixer View Post
    Other than losing, This guy has been one of the only consistent things around TFC.


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    How you can write 'Best of' and have Chad Barrett's name there two years in a row is beyond me.

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    A truly consolidated SSG supporters area (ie. most of the south end) that is FILLED with SSGs or those who want to partake in what we do.

    And wins.

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    Martina??? You put Martina in your "Best of '11"???? He's not even a player they dress for the bench anymore!

    I'd just like to make a reminder of some predictions in March about our boy Martina.

    Quote Originally Posted by Globetrotter View Post
    March 31, 2011

    Not sure that our current setup is better than some of our older lineups. Martina might be the next Ricketts (Ricketts did have a multi goal game too i believe). Stefanovic might be a Jarrod Smith. Sturgis, Bouchiba, Gargan, Youras..., Plata??? I'm sure we've had better. Santos always has potential to fit in and rock, but he has traveled the world for a reason hasn't he?
    Quote Originally Posted by Thrillos View Post
    Are you serious?????

    Martina was signed by the ajax senior team until an ill timed injury at the end of his contract screwed him. Ricketts was a youth player that never made it past the youth ranks.

    Stevanovic is co-owned by one of the biggest teams in the world and was signed by arguably the best manager in the world, Mourhino.
    Jarrod Smith was signed as a free agent from the middle of nowhere....
    Quote Originally Posted by DangerRed View Post


    Oh, but that's right... Martina is an Ajax product, so that defaults him to being amazing. You know, because all superstars that are in their early 20's travel to North America, and NOT to Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    A truly consolidated SSG supporters area (ie. most of the south end) that is FILLED with SSGs or those who want to partake in what we do.

    And wins.
    'Round here, "SSG" has one meaning and one meaning only, and it typically looks like this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by VoxPopuliCosmicum View Post
    'Round here, "SSG" has one meaning and one meaning only, and it typically looks like this:

    i loved her and her brother in the matrix!!

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    Coach stability, roster stability and players that have enough heart/desire for the badge to grind out a win.

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    Owners that care about winning. has to come from the top.

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    Cheaper Beer?

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    I've gotta agree with the Anselmi hate.

    Who gave Mo 4 years?
    Who refused to sign a DP until the silence was deafening?
    Who let some random suit with a beard sign players when no management structure was in place?
    Who made TV deals that ensured the fewest amount of people could watch the team away from home?
    Who was responsible for doubling ticket prices in 5 short years?

    There's more probably more boondoggles but these are just the ones off the top of my head.

 

 

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