im writing an article about this (i dont have a blog so im probably just going to post it on here) about things that wont change anytime soon in the MLS, why they won't, when they will and how they will.
personally, my thought on the playoffs go as followed:
- north americans love their playoffs
- we're a north american sports organization so we have to have them
- brings in extra revenue
- etc.
sounds simplistic, even naive, but i believe its absolutely true.
Yep. I don't expect that the league will ever adopt a relegation/promotion system either, most likely it will grow to approximately to 30+ teams keeping a west vs. east conference playoff system like all other North American sports.
Great results on the poll, but I'm guessing they are a little skewed with Seattle in CCL. Normally a poll involving them on MLSsoccer.com is decided quickly by their fans.
glad to see the CCL winning over fans. hopefully this leads to a one match final at a neutral location instead of the aggregate 2 leg final being used now. probably still 10 years away from even trying it though..
lol. what neutral CCL venues? it'll be held in US and Mexico only then... and mostly Mexican teams playing the finalsOriginally Posted by cougars732
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
With four major sports playoffs gives each one a chance to be in the spotlight for a few weeks and get the biggest TV ratings possible. North American sports didn't always have playoffs until TV ratings became so important.
So, yeah, now we love playoffs.
you would never say they value it more...if you look at the empty stadiums in LA and Seattle tonight.....
This is an absolutely disastrous idea. Why would you ever want this here other than that's how UEFA does it?
Im sure Once MLS are more competive and start winning the ccl.....It wont be long off till the USA start bidding to host the World Club Championships......would be amazing
Football isn't a normal North American sport, and most fans here still have euro attitudes towards the playoffs. Ives Galarcep told me I was nuts to think most people would prefer single table in MLS with the title going to the season winner; then he ran a poll on his site, and single table won conclusively.
I don't know why they don't already bid to host it.
I'm sure it would draw some good crowds in the U.S.
Edit: Never mind, it has already been addressed.
Last edited by PAOK17; 08-16-2011 at 11:16 PM.
if there's no promotion/rel i don't get why some people get so butthurt over playoffs? i mean eurosnobbery surely not?
i think 10 of 18 teams is a joke, but a 4 or 6 team playoff would be great.
most of the western hemisphere has some form of playoff system in place.
Yayz! The butthurt eurosnobs are back cause they prefer something different!
If you like playoffs and don't care for/like the rele/promo here in NA congratulations, you are with the majority of sports fans here in NA!!
CCL and it's growth in popularity as a tournament will challenge the NA mentality of the importance or worth of playoffs but the 2 can coexist for a loooooooooong time.
I've got an idea- How about we celebrate the tournament we enjoy and let those who prefer the other do the same. And those that appreciate both? Lucky you.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
You do know to win the CCL you have to win a playoff.
Yayz! The butthurt eurosnobs are back cause they prefer something different!
If you like playoffs and don't care for/like the rele/promo here in NA congratulations, you are with the majority of sports fans here in NA!!
CCL and it's growth in popularity as a tournament will challenge the NA mentality of the importance or worth of playoffs but the 2 can coexist for a loooooooooong time.
I've got an idea- How about we celebrate the tournament we enjoy and let those who prefer the other do the same. And those that appreciate both? Lucky you.
Promotion/Relegation will never happen because you have had owners pay big fees to buy into a top North American league. That's not my opinion btw but what is commonly cited as the main reason it will never happen here.
Last edited by brad; 08-17-2011 at 10:20 PM.
I don't think MLS generates enough revenue to support 30 teams that's either barely breaking even or losing money. maybe once big enough TV money comes in, and NASL/USL 2 teams have enough support to sustain a team at MLS level yes, but right now, I don't think relegation will happen. nor is it a good idea
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
I personally care more about the CCL than the playoffs. The Supporters Shield is nice, but means nothing theres no grand prize, aka the MLS Cup.
The way I see it is winning the Supporters Shield, gives you the soap box, but winning the MLS Cup gives you more street cred. The CCL gives you a "rep" where you run with the big boys. lol
Wow never thought, futbol could be so gangsta. lol
But as long as we don't follow the Latin American model of Apertura and Clausura, I'm content with the status quo. It makes no sense to me to have 2 "seasons". Why not just 1, with a break...
Anyways... my 2 cents.
This is what I see happening. 30 teams, 2 conferences, 28 games schedule and then add in some inter-league stuff to make it a 36 game schedule.
Canada shouldn't get a 2nd CCL spot until we have over 10 teams and preferably our own league, not just a tiny tournament (that I love) in the NCC. What should happen is the Canadian spot being automatic rather than preliminary, thats some ole bs.
Yeeeessss. And the league is just one looooong playoff.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
i dont think youll be seeing that any time soon. MLS has been picking cities that has the money, big enough fan base to support a team and the money to build soccer stadiums within a year or so from joinning the league. Starting a whole second division would take years to get a bunch of teams in cities that have all those requirements. Not to mention MLS already has what 18 teams? how many more cities in US and Canada can really support an MLS team with 13,000+ fans a game? I can think of a few cities maybe, but not 12+ more teams at the moment to start a whole 2nd division and deffinitly not that many with money and stadiums ready to start tommorrow.
Youd also have teams like LA and NY, 2 flag ship teams in major cities for MLS that could get relegated and lose all there money and i dont think MLS would ever be willing to let that happen. It sounds good for the die hard soccer fans to have relegation and promotion, but to the casual fans they may not even understand that concept, or may drop off once a team gets relegated lossing the team money, its risky for many MLS teams that they would not be willing to take.
i think the only chance they have of a 2nd division is having MLS buy some NASL teams and letting new teams join and calling it MLS-2 but without a relegation and promotion. MLS 1 letting MLS 2 teams move up only once MLS-2 teams have propper stadiums and support big enough for MLS-1. But i think thats the closest thing youd get to a 2 tier league.
Last edited by james; 08-22-2011 at 01:18 PM.
Agreed... Relegation will not happen until they get rid of the cap and allow big teams like NY and LA to buy themselves a spot in the first division. With parity it's too risky right now.
never going to happen
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Agreed. No N. American league that has ever gotten a cap has ever relinquished it.
Germany tossed their cap in the 70's and England their "maximum wage" in the 60's, but those were very different situations from here in which you have players operating under CBAs.
Last edited by Oldtimer; 08-22-2011 at 03:37 PM.
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