Here's my thinking.
Avila, Marosevic...Griffit.
The Columbus trade, I believe, had more to do with Griffit than Iro.
Iro was probably bundled in by a Columbus side that didn't want him anymore.
The aforementioned trio are the attacking midfield/winger types that Mariner has a liking to for our system.
Iro is a stop-gap measure at best.
We all need to get off the deer antler spray.
Well, were on the rise. Point away from home, shoulda been three but we are improving. That's the key.
At the beginning of the year we were shite. Utter shite. We couldn't score and our defending was horrid. We lost 3-0 to DC at home.
Now, our attack and midfield is competent. Its actually quite good. However our defense is still in shambles. We tied DC 3-3.
All that's left is to shape up our back line. Patch it up, recover from injuries, add some personelle and well be a pleasure to watch. Who knows, next time we win 3-0?
Disagree. Winter said specifically he wanted "a left footed player for the left CB position". I can't imagine this trade was for Griffit, a player who's hardly played any football in the MLS, and not for Iro, who was a player who specifically fit into Winter's description of the type of left sided CB that he wanted.
I question Winter's reasoning behind playing half fit players, especially Iro. I know "we all hate Harden", but I'd rather see a fit Harden out there than Iro, who's currrently as unfit as my grandmother (who is dead).
Will Frei ever save a penalty at TFC?
My point is that our lack of three points comes down to individual mistakes by a single individual. DC have to account for their own individual mistakes. Our defense was no good tonight, and Winter owns that.
I also agree that the result is ultimately the result, no ifs or buts. The objective isnt to make excuses, its to assign cause. Iro was the cause of our fate tonight. Perhaps DCs keeper was the cause of theirs.
- Scott
Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt. ~Christopher Hitchens
I seem to be mistaken then. Apologies
In any case, Iro, as a project, has failed. He is not the centerback we need.
We need more technical defenders, less brutish ones, that's for sure. Especially if we're playing a pass-from-the-back system.
It seemed to me that Iro could not and would not pass to anyone farther than a few meters away. He was afraid of having possession and showed low self-worth. He is not the answer at CB. Perhaps Dasan Robinson should have a shot.
A point on the road in MLS is a good result. Bizarre the way it went down, but any of us would have taken a draw before the game. Two wins and two draws in the past 4 games is pretty solid form.
Sounders game was awesome.
2 stoppage time goals (up a man after Bravo sent off) to beat KC 2-1 and end their unbeaten run and give them their first home loss.
13 goals in the last 15 minutes of games. They score late goals. We concede them.
We need to judge Iro when he is fit and has had a proper preseason. I don't think we are seeing a match fit, match sharp player right now. But as I said, I really question why Winter is playing the guy when he's obviously so unfit!
3 games in 8 days....7000+ Miles travelled, points picked up in each game. so i'm pleased.
Iro had a career-worst game tonight....Where is Dasan Robinson or Viator....seriously. I'm sure winter would have subbed him off if he could have.
Marosevic looked busy/industrious tonight, and capped it off with a goal.
JDG with confidence, is a different player.
Frings is still the boss.
Avila looks to be a good pick up!
De-RO was respectful in not over celebrating, which i appreciated. All over, a CRAZY match.
Iro to be sat next game, i'm sure he was first in/out of the showers today, to go hide under a rock.
That doesn't mean that we won't be offering him a contract!
So essentially what you are saying is that Winter and Company gave up Dero in a trade for Tchani, who was traded for Iro, who will be released at the end of the season?! So we got nothing in a trade for DeRo, essentially?!
You can't tell me that the TFC management don't want Iro to be a full time player for TFC after this season...there is no way they would have given up all that they have, and NOT want him as our full time CB!