Post game: TFC @ Portland
What a little confidence does for a team...
Good on TFC from drawing after going down 2-0 away from BMO Field. (even if it's against one of the worst teams in MLS)
But a little consistency will go a long way. Hopefully the lads will build on this to get the result on Tues vs Real Esteli, which they should.
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
new kid comes in and scores his first MLS goal on his first MLS debut. Kouverman i don't know how he does it, he's such a stiff but still scores. That first goal really boosted our offense and confidence
like, Koevermans misses the easier chances but puts away the harder ones...Originally Posted by TheFallen
wait until he's completely match fit? though he's got like 4 full games under his belt so he should be pretty close, no?
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Good come back!
What a comeback! This team has shown once again that it has a lot of heart and pride. I am loving this new TFC team. Now only if we can win our league games.
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With all the recent acquisitions this team is really coming together. I think it will be a very good last 10 games.
we almost won this thing near the end but we stole a point on the road..... things look good heading into the 2nd leg vs RE
06-18-09 i was there
i gotta say Dunfield made such a great first impression. Solid guy, knows where to pass.
Makes you think what the hell were Vancouver thinking of trading him away.
And JDG continues to fail to impress.
Today's the day that I fully committed to the "hate-JDG bandwagon"
The difference between JDG and Dunfield is partially giveaways (I counted 10 for JDG in the first half, didn't bother counting in the second half, although admittedly he did much better in the second half), but also effort. Dunfield might not have the skill and touch JDG does, but he is far superior in the heart and work effort categories - like a Gargan with more skill.
How the hell Soehn let him go for a sack of potatoes I will never understand.
I don't usually go crazy over a player because of one or two games but hopefully Morgan sees regular minutes at FB
Honestly, what did you see out of Morgan that impressed you? He got beat regularly and other than a few crosses, wasn't terribly impressive. He was pretty good up the pitch, but that's not his primary job. His defending was atrocious, the only reason people aren't calling him out on it is because everyone realizes hes a kid and he's going to make mistakes.
I would rather have Nick Garcia as our LB than Morgan.
i have to agree with ya about morgan game today..
Difference between Morgan and Garcia, is that Morgan would make something happen with the ball or play it safe. Garcia would attempt to 'slow' pass it back to Frei effectively giving it to the opposition striker for an easy goal. Garcia single-handedly destroyed our games.
Morgan on the other hand can be out of position but his pace is good enough to keep up. Positioning is a lot easier to improve than technique, and Morgan will improve with experience. A simple matter of "that's the situation = run here". If anyone remembers, it took Wynne almost a full season to get his positioning down.
First off - Wynne has never had his positioning down. Never did. Still doesn't.
Garcia at CB? Never. Garcia at LB? I would take this. I'm not saying Garcia is perfect by any means - obviously he made many, many mistakes. But at LB he was actually pretty good.
I'm fairly confident Morgan will be a regular starter for us one day. But that day is not coming any time soon. It will take a lot of time (in the reserve league preferably) for him to improve his positioning. In the meantime, Garcia's technique is better than Morgan's.
Either way, its a moot point. There's no way Garcia is coming back. The point of my statement is that Morgan is right now, at best, a bench player.
Deguz almost cost TFC with a poor backpass. Stefan Frei cleaned up the mess.
Deguz poor backpass is Garcia's best back pass.
Although I wouldn't rely on Morgan to be a starter for a couple of seasons, I don't see anything wrong with him starting an occasional game here and there. 1 game in MLS will probably equal 5-10 in reserves, for the experience he gains. Playing on field with Frings and co. he'll become all the more valuable.
Another way to think of it, if he gets a lot of exposure at the end of this season, for better or for worse, he will be all the more invaluable next season, when we WILL NEED to call on him. This season is a development opportunity now anyway.
Byebye Julian.
Game really changed when he left and Dunfield and Marosevic came in.
I called it at the '61.
TFC Highlight of the night.
JDG has to go and we need to not get ahead of ourselves. This is still a very bad team with sub-MLS quality players.
But I'll take the draw and not the usual limpdick surrendering.
+1
the lads fought back for the point, instead of usual surrendering. maybe they finally grew a spine?
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
Really?
Torsten Frings, Danny Koevermans, Stefan Frei, Terry Dunfield, Joao Plata etc. are all SUB MLS QUALITY?
Ty Harden, JDG, Andy Iro, Yourassowsky, Borman, etc. are?
I didn't say this entire team was sub-MLS quality. Every time we eek out a draw on the road (we still haven't won an MLS road game this year) we do a complete 180 from "WORST TEAM EVER!" to "this new side is going to be SICK NASTY in 8-10 games".
I'm excited for Koevermans, Frings, and so on but the shit outweighs the good by a lot.
Out of curiosity...did you watch more than the game in six?
I watched the game in 80. I missed the start of the 2nd half.
"By a lot" my fuckin ass.
Koevermans, Plata, Johnson, Frings, Dunfield, Eckersley, Frei are not shit.
That's 7 starting players who are damn good enough for MLS.
Martina, Soolsma, Cann, Williams, Santos...all are good enough for MLS in the roles they play.
Or you have guys like Morgan, Omphroy, Henry who are just kids with potential, so labeling them shit simply isn't fair.
Or you have guys like Lindsay, Bouchiba, Griffit, Marosevic...who are either hurt or having been here long enough to even grade.
TLDR version: blow your shit out your ass cause it's annoying when you spew it from your fingers.
How many MLS rosters don't have 5-10 shit players on it?
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The shit only outweighs the good BY A LOT, in the context of our unrest over several previous years of shit.
I think our offense is probably going to be okay, and our defense still needs work (and a couple of good signings). We've finally got a striker who can at least force the keeper to make a save, a couple of bonafide midfielders, and actual options on the wings (for the first time in years).
There's no doubt our defense is still rubbish - Harden, Borman, and Yourass don't impress me at all (though I think Yourass is a bit better at LB). Iro I'm still not sure about - defending is a group activity, and when you're out of sync with those around you, it's easy to look shit. Even more so when you're trying to trap.
There are still more problems than solutions (this is all you can say, until our record starts to prove otherwise), but some issues are being sorted.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
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