View Poll Results: Will Toronto FC make the playoffs??

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    If we had a 0.5% probability of the playoffs after the NYRB game, you gotta think we're hitting "almost impossible" country now.

    We now need probably 24 points in 13 games, or 1.84 PPG. That is better than the start that the LA Galaxy have had to this year so far. Meaning we have to be the #1 team for the rest of the season just to maybe squeak into 10th place.
    Last edited by Roogsy; 07-09-2011 at 10:30 PM.

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    lolol

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    So now we've made the Champions League - how much extra cap space do we get? And we're allowed extra players too?

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    It's nice to know there's 21 people more delusional then I am. Well, here's hoping. It's not impossible, just INCREDIBLY improbable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waggy View Post
    It's nice to know there's 21 people more delusional then I am. Well, here's hoping. It's not impossible, just INCREDIBLY improbable
    If everyone here was as pessimistic no one in Canada would buy lottery tickets!

    So how does us making the Champion's league impact our cap and roster size?

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    watching this timbers sounders game for the second time is motivating
    f this
    we cant go down like this we cant
    why is are team falling apart
    why i just don't get it

    TORONTO TILL I DIE
    NEVER MIND ALL YOU HATERS

    Last edited by whyalwaysme11; 07-11-2011 at 10:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfitz View Post
    So how does us making the Champion's league impact our cap and roster size?
    It doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfitz View Post
    If everyone here was as pessimistic no one in Canada would buy lottery tickets!

    So how does us making the Champion's league impact our cap and roster size?
    Quote Originally Posted by brad View Post
    It doesn't.
    Good guess, but actually, it does:

    Allocation Money
    Allocation money is a resource available to clubs in addition to their respective salary budgets.
    A club may receive allocation money for:

    • failure to qualify for the MLS Cup Playoffs;
    • the transfer of a player to a club outside of MLS for value;
    • expansion status;
    • qualification for the CONCACAF Champions League;
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/2011-mls-roster-rules

    It's the only exception to parity in the non-DP general cap rules. Clubs get rewarded for being good.

    Allocation is essentially extra free cap space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Good guess, but actually, it does:

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/2011-mls-roster-rules

    It's the only exception to parity in the non-DP general cap rules. Clubs get rewarded for being good.

    Allocation is essentially extra free cap space.

    oldtimer.
    this post right here...
    is just bang on.
    we need more facts on this site like this.

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    I actually voted yes because I had a feeling we might win in houston. I have to keep the slightest of hopes alive to justify spending all that money on gas, parking, food etc. for the remaining games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Good guess, but actually, it does:

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/2011-mls-roster-rules

    It's the only exception to parity in the non-DP general cap rules. Clubs get rewarded for being good.

    Allocation is essentially extra free cap space.
    Does that allocation come before we play Real Esteli or only if we beat them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzeo11 View Post
    watching this timbers sounders game for the second time is motivating
    f this
    we cant go down like this we cant
    why is are team falling apart
    why i just don't get it

    TORONTO TILL I DIE
    NEVER MIND ALL YOU HATERS


    Yes, I love to see my club, be shit game in and game out, WOOOWOWOWOWOW, as long as we are drinking and having a good time, who gives a shit as to what happens on the pitch? MLSE TILL I DIE

    I am a real OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLTRA. GIVE ME ONE MORE 5 YEAR PLAN. I love them.

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    Some people are clearly fucking around. We lose and two more people voted yes.

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    Default MLSE=Culture of lossing

    I did not completley adhere to this idea, I had hoped that as a seperate division of the MLSE TFC could develop a seperate culture. But I have to say that the corporate culture accepts lossing to easily, it is too quick to make excuses, and simply seems not to know how to win.

    I support the new management and the new diretion. But three wins and the overall effort seems to suggest that before we learn any system, we need to learn how to win, or at least to battle. I know people are tiered of hearing about it, but that is one of those things that we had in early going, mostly because veterans like Dichio.

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    we're only 4 points out of a playoff spot

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    ^ hahahahahahaha. That's the spirit.

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    Lossing really sucks. Even moreso than losing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas982 View Post
    Lossing really sucks. Even moreso than losing.
    OK.

    When you say moreso, you mean more so???

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    snap

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    Honestly.. how much time were you willing to afford the new management team when the season began? They've been dealt a shit hand and yes they've put out a shit team. Can we at least wait until the new DP's have settled in (let alone join the team) before having a cry?

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    as long as the Corporation makes a profit, why would they care if the team wins or loses

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    Theme on the boards seems to be get down on the team now in case these new players don't work out so as to avoid disapointment later on. Its almost inconcievable now that this team could ever be good.

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    I'm at a loss for all the lossing around here.


    Edit: Mods, for the love of god can't we put this in the Winter thread, or any of the other ones about how the team won't make the playoffs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFin View Post
    I'm at a loss for all the lossing around here.


    Edit: Mods, for the love of god can't we put this in the Winter thread, or any of the other ones about how the team won't make the playoffs?
    merged into the playoffs thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildgreek View Post
    as long as the Corporation makes a profit, why would they care if the team wins or loses
    My son and I have been partial STHs since day 1 (frequent job travel precluded full STH ) but we finally gave up this year. IMO ( and I have followed professional soccer in the UK for over 50 years) the ownership situation has a huge impact on a team both on and off the field. My favourite team is Norwich City ( home of Simeon Jackson and formerly of Carl Robinson and Jim Brennan ).2 years ago they dropped to the equivalent of Division 3 for the first time in 50 years and lost their first home game at the new lower level 7-1.The team's Board promptly hired the opposing manager and in two years are back in the Premiership.My point? A devoted,committed soccer knowledgeable Board led by celebrity chef Delia Smith whose " Let's be having you rant " in a losing cause endeared her to Canary fans and made her a bit of a laughing stock elsewhere. Also on the Board is famed actor Stephen Fry. These people LOVE the Canaries and that is why when they fell two divisions their fan support stayed stable at 25,000 a game ( not bad for a small city). MLSE are great for their shareholders ( as they should be ) but their connection to the fans is non-existent.Longer term this is not a good business model.When the owners again respect the fans we look forward to returning as STHs. The recent signings are a step in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azerban View Post
    we're only 4 points out of a playoff spot
    That is exactly the mindset of a "losing culture".

    MLSE live of this. They've made millions…funded condos on prime real estate…built the largest pension fund in the world. All of which is founded on "look, we're only 4 points from a playoff spot".

    The culture there feeds on itself. Mention the Leafs. Raptors. TFC. Everyone loves them. Mention MLSE, everyone thinks their money gouging greedy bastards!

    I know a number of employees who work/worked for MLSE and each one has told me, when people ask who do you work for if the say MLSE, people snarl, bitch or complain. Say you work for the Leafs, Raptors or TFC…people are like…Cool! Must be fun!

    MLSE are negative and toxic in perception and reality. People in this city hold them accountable for Toronto being the "Worst Sporting City in North America".

    They just don't care as long as they make money. And once this cash cow stops producing milk and starts costing them real cash off the bottom line…they'll sell it…or move it. They don't care…its business.

    Sorry for the rant.
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    “We changed the entire league’s opinion of the viability of soccer in North America. And then we blew it because we chickened out." —Tim Leiweke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto_Bhoy View Post
    That is exactly the mindset of a "losing culture".

    MLSE live of this. They've made millions…funded condos on prime real estate…built the largest pension fund in the world. All of which is founded on "look, we're only 4 points from a playoff spot".

    The culture there feeds on itself. Mention the Leafs. Raptors. TFC. Everyone loves them. Mention MLSE, everyone thinks their money gouging greedy bastards!

    I know a number of employees who work/worked for MLSE and each one has told me, when people ask who do you work for if the say MLSE, people snarl, bitch or complain. Say you work for the Leafs, Raptors or TFC…people are like…Cool! Must be fun!

    MLSE are negative and toxic in perception and reality. People in this city hold them accountable for Toronto being the "Worst Sporting City in North America".

    They just don't care as long as they make money. And once this cash cow stops producing milk and starts costing them real cash off the bottom line…they'll sell it…or move it. They don't care…its business.

    Sorry for the rant.
    didn't know mlse built an empire on my sarcasm

    where is my piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    merged into the playoffs thread.
    Thanks OT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildgreek View Post
    as long as the Corporation makes a profit, why would they care if the team wins or loses
    Because they can make even more money. Team gets better, plays more games, sells more tickets, sells more concessions, sells more merchandise... etc etc

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    i believe int the power of love. . . .

    and love has little basis in rational thought.

    TFC play off bound.
    NOTICE: Wager with STB: OVER 2 shots on goal in the First half wins a Pint at HT.

 

 

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