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    Good thing he renegotiated his contract...
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    Adrian Cann Gone For The Season

    http://viewfromthesouthstands.com/20...rian-cann-acl/

    TFC suffer another blow as 2010 club MVP Adrian Cann is gone for the season with an ACL injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker View Post
    Do you realize you're an asshole or do you think it's everyone else with a problem? I've been meaning to ask you for some time now.
    Such a pleasant fellow aren't you.

    Really enjoy building my ignore list this year.
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    Shitty deal for everyone. I remember when Cann first started playing for us... felt like striking oil having found a good defender with a modest salary.

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    Awful news. Too bad MLS doesn't provide some cap relief in these situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocker View Post
    Awful news. Too bad MLS doesn't provide some cap relief in these situations.
    Completely agree.

    And it's too bad that Cann's career is very likely finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker View Post
    Do you realize you're an asshole or do you think it's everyone else with a problem? I've been meaning to ask you for some time now.
    There are a few of them in here.

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    Sorry for Cann. I'm sure he's disappointed. Really amazes me that MLS rules still stick us with his salary against the cap though.

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    I just hope that Cann's new deal is guaranteed for next year... If not he's rehabbing while on EI....
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc View Post
    I just hope that Cann's new deal is guaranteed for next year... If not he's rehabbing while on EI....
    As someone who rehabbed on EI in 2009, I hope so too

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocker View Post
    Awful news. Too bad MLS doesn't provide some cap relief in these situations.
    Wow, you're serious, no cap relief?

    But roster spot relief, right??? !!!

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    There is cap relief guys!!!

    He goes on Season-Ending Injury list doesn't he, and then only 1/2 of his Salary counts against he cap. I'm almost certain that's how MLS cap rules work. How is our other Chronic Knee injury?

    Good thing the window opens tomorrow boys, lets hope some of our rumours are true. Paul Stalteri has never looked so good. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFCRegina View Post
    Such a pleasant fellow aren't you.

    Really enjoy building my ignore list this year.
    Add me to your ignore list too, because I agree with Stryker -- you're consistently looking down your nose at people around here and it makes you sound cuntish. Not calling you a cunt, just your behaviour. Kind of like i'd not call you an idiot, but I'd call your ideas stupid.

    On topic: it's a tough loss, but the way he's been playing of late, it's more a depth loss rather than of any serious talent. I think he's out of form and hasn't contributed as well as he is capable. That said, now we have cap space tied up in two players injured for the balance of the season. Fucking bad luck, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sashavukelich View Post
    There is cap relief guys!!!

    He goes on Season-Ending Injury list doesn't he, and then only 1/2 of his Salary counts against he cap. I'm almost certain that's how MLS cap rules work.
    Afraid not man. I also thought the half season salary rule applied here but was wrong.

    Section II(k)
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/2011-mls-roster-rules

    SEASON-ENDING INJURY REPLACEMENTS
    A team with a player lost to a season-ending injury can replace that player on its roster, while remaining responsible for the full amount of the injured player’s salary. A player can be placed on the season-ending injury list once another player has been signed as a replacement (provided the team has budget space). International player limits still apply at the time a season-ending replacement is made (with the player being replaced not counting against those limits).

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc View Post
    I just hope that Cann's new deal is guaranteed for next year... If not he's rehabbing while on EI....
    An insurance policy will cover the remaining value on his contract for this season, but if I remember correctly the 3rd and 4th years of his deal were team options.

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    ^^^ thanks for the actual rule Stryker...i would have bet had i not seen it in writing by 'responsible for the full amount of the injured players salary' do they mean CAP responsible or just responsible to not 'fire'/cut an injured player?

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    I'm shocked by that cap rule - I thought we would get half season relief too.

    I guess the league must have had a problem, or must be worried it could have a problem, with guys and teams in cahoots to fake injuries and do buyouts while still getting cap relief.

    End result, we are screwed by it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sashavukelich View Post
    ^^^ thanks for the actual rule Stryker...i would have bet had i not seen it in writing by 'responsible for the full amount of the injured players salary' do they mean CAP responsible or just responsible to not 'fire'/cut an injured player?
    You're welcome. I imagine it means the team is cap responsible but you're right the wording isn't very precise. That's MLS for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker View Post
    You're welcome. I imagine it means the team is cap responsible but you're right the wording isn't very precise. That's MLS for you.
    The condition that a replacement player can be signed "provided the team has budget space" leads me to believe that the injured player's salary still counts against the cap.

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    Very unfortunate news for TFC, and even worse news for Cann. It will be difficult for him to fully recover from such a devastating injury at this stage of his career.

    Now that Williams will be departing for the Gold Cup, the backline is officially in crisis mode. I hope Nana is ready to step up.

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    This is the worst... as if our defence wasn't bad enough already.

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    Does any one know where we are with respect to the cap? We must have tones of cap space with Dero gone?

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    ^ I don't know the exact number off hand, but we have a decent amount of cap space (like $200k-$300k?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton_Red View Post
    Does any one know where we are with respect to the cap? We must have tones of cap space with Dero gone?
    I just did the math and came up with a number in the 360,000's.
    That does not include allocation and its unknown if we're paying any of Barrett or DeRo's salary.


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    Stevanovic - 250,000
    JDG - 345,000
    Peterson - 150,000
    Current unused - 360,000

    Total free cap a smart manager could head into the offseason with = 1.05 million + allocation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sashavukelich View Post
    ^^^ thanks for the actual rule Stryker...i would have bet had i not seen it in writing by 'responsible for the full amount of the injured players salary' do they mean CAP responsible or just responsible to not 'fire'/cut an injured player?
    I think it would have to mean cap responsible, since the league actually pays the players, not the team, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker View Post
    I just did the math and came up with a number in the 360,000's.
    That does not include allocation and its unknown if we're paying any of Barrett or DeRo's salary.


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    Stevanovic - 250,000
    JDG - 345,000
    Peterson - 150,000
    Current unused - 360,000

    Total free cap a smart manager could head into the offseason with = 1.05 million + allocation.


    again this is where my mind was in terms of space. I can't believe peterson makes what he makes.....that's a negotiation embarrassment. As soon as we release him we can sign a difference maker. Thereby we could have 500,000 in cap space with him gone, that's be wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CretanBull View Post
    ^ I don't know the exact number off hand, but we have a decent amount of cap space (like $200k-$300k?).
    I think 600K was the number mentioned here few days ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker View Post
    That does not include allocation and its unknown if we're paying any of Barrett or DeRo's salary.
    In both deals it was reported that we're paying some part of each of their salaries. The NY Post reported that TFC are paying "a significant amount" of DeRo's salary and after the Barrett trade Ives reported that TFC agreed to pay "a portion" of Barrett's salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denime View Post
    I think 600K was the number mentioned here few days ago.
    That seems possible. Stryker came up with a rough number of $360k. Minus what we're paying for DeRo and Barrett but add whatever allocation we have and $600k doesn't sound unreasonable.

 

 

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