deadringers for Stefanovic and Eckersley these 2Originally Posted by CretanBull
Wull and Celt-Nick together? I think history shows when Scots get together only trouble can follow
deadringers for Stefanovic and Eckersley these 2Wull and Celt-Nick together? I think history shows when Scots get together only trouble can follow
Hahaha. Wull, there's gotta be a way to gain from this....deadringers for Stefanovic and Eckersley these 2
let's try it out at Joe's next weekend!
pardon? shitting on hockey fans?
Hocky stuff? sorry i know nothing about hocky, i was a foot ball goalie since i was 4 years old, now that iam 47, i do goalie training.
when your goalie has a non reliable defence line, you pull him out before they out score him and make him feel bad, and thats exacley what happened on saturday, after the 3rd. goal Frei was a bit shakey, that somthing you would never want to your first choice goali
:drum: TFC :drum: TFC
Never seen that happen in the 25 years I've been watching and playing
Just insulted 90% of BMO Field.
Its something that does not happen in every game, its very rare, but when it happens , there is no difference between having a disoriented goalie, and a goalie with an injured hand or a foot, you dont want an injured goalie to attend the net. what happened on saturday,any one who watched the game and saw the 3rd. goal, and for any reason thought we can still catch up in the game, is a fool
:drum: TFC :drum: TFC
We had a fighting chance at 3-2. Unfortunately it would have taken 5 subs to do what we did AND shore up the back line
You guys saw the look on Frei's face during and after the game right?
Convince me he is here for the long-term and isn't looking for the escape hatch out as some other players have told me people have advised him to do?
Yeah, his post game interview looked very sincere. He was sitting on the ground, depleted but still came across with a tone that showed he was committed to improving this club.
If we don't improve, he has to go for the sake of his own development. I hope nobody here would begrudge him that.
I was more concerned about the look on Eckersley's face at half time. He was getting tore into 3 stooges he was sharing a back line with. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a clear the air session this morning or whenever they're next at training
Sincerity and wishing for the best for TFC is something I am sure Frei feels.
Staying here is not something I am quite so sure of. I can't find any reason to believe "tone" would indicate commitment unless you are looking for it. What I saw yesterday was a keeper who was tired of keeping his club in the games. He's called out his team several games now. Many are saying his development could be hampered if he stays here. If we don't realize the risk of Frei's leaving is real, it's going to hit us like a ton of bricks.
Does Frei have a proper song?
If not, I think this song is a gem (if not for him, someone in the squad...but he is definitely most deserving of a song).
Its to the tune of 'Give it Up' by KC and the Sunshine band (about 1:00 in):
Its used around England quite a bit. Spurs have one for VdV, Arsenal one for Nasri, but I'm quite sure it started with Ebanks-Blake and Wolves.
Anyways, I thought it could go something like:
Super Stefan Frei, STEFAN FREI, Super Stefan Frei
Na na na na na naaaa....
frei needs a proper song, soon ... i like it
I'm sure when the time comes for Frei to leave the clubs PR department will release some lies to make him look like a bad guy.
The fans will eat it up because they are so pro management.
I spoke with one keeper in MLS from another team and he told me that Frei's development will most definitely be hindered by staying at TFC and he thinks Frei is already getting advice to start looking elsewhere for when the time comes to bolt. He said it was too bad because in his opinion, Frei is one of, if not the best keeper in MLS.
How can he not be the best? He's developed so quickly. It happens when you see the ball more than anyone else on the pitch. Either through backpasses, set piece defense, distribution or saves.
Maybe there is something to be said for all the extra practice he gets playing behind our squad. He gets so many reps in ridiculous situations that soon enough every play will be routine. Once whatever merciful deity he worships grants his prayers and moves him to a squad that is not such a farcical shit-show he will be completely unflappable.
Pro-management? Really? Have you been reading these boards at all over the past five years?
Looks like BS and conjecture was on sale at RONA this weekend.
I guess you missed the threads on De Rosario, Cann, Attakora and the 3 Academy kids.Pro-management? Really? Have you been reading these boards at all over the past five years?
Looks like BS and conjecture was on sale at RONA this weekend.
Conjecture my ass. When push comes to shove the majority of posters side with management when it comes to player disputes.
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By the way, does anyone have any idea how long we have Frei under contract?
Co-signed
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
I disagree that we side with management. I think most of us are more concerned with the team's image and in most of those disputes, even though they may have been aiming for the FO, it's our club's name that was getting dragged through the mud again.
Most people outside of our support don't know who tom, paul, earl etc. are and coverage of them doesn't tend to extend beyond local outlets. The players, however do get reported on further afield so people tend to have a go at them more in the situation.
You are splitting hairs. It comes down to the same thing, running down the players and calling them liars, while reflexively siding with the team/FO, whatever the facts may be.
I don't get this. Why does anyone think this is a religion or something, where anything that threatens the image of "Toronto FC" has to be opposed?
The way to have a better image for Toronto FC is not to reflexively side with anyone. That way eevryone knows that honourable dealings will be rewarded, dishonourable dealings won't.
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
Dero was done as soon as he signed that cheque
Cann ditched training camp
Nana, people are seriously wondering who he has to blow to get a start
The Academy Kids, don't think there's really enough there to blame either side
If Frei goes, it will not be the same old. Trust.
That's a touch harsh don't you think? One one hand you're saying we should not reflexively side with anyone (I agree with you 100%), but on the other you readily categorize those that may not take your position as 'running down the players'
Attacking players isn't necessarily siding with the FO. I haven't had a go at Nana the way I did with DeRo and to a lesser extent Cann. I didn't like the way DeRo went about things so I said so. I didn't like Cann walking out with a week to go so I said so. I don't like the way Nana is being treated so I said so.
Ultimately that shirt means more to me than anyone wearing it or managing it. We got rid of the main issues for Cann and DeRo when we dumped Mo, the new management team tried to reach a compromise but couldn't. That was an attempt at honourable dealings by Winter and Mariner, this whole thing with Nana has me very concerned though
Remember when the badge didn't equate with management?
I miss those days. Carry on....
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
If you don't like how some of the players go about their business, doesn't mean you side with management. And if you don't like how management goes about their business, doesn't mean you side with the players.
Ultimately the team is the most important. That's who I support. It's too bad sometimes management and players can't see that. I don't know why it has to be about "picking a side". You buy a beer, you're sided with management. You protest management, you're siding with the players.
At the end of the day, everyone just tries to cover their ass. That's sports, that's life.
But those who put the team's best interests - ahead of their own - and there are some, they get my respect.
Having said that if Frei says he wants to leave to play on a winning team, I'm not going to vilify him.
And who are these people? Because if there are none, does that mean that none get your respect?
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