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    Default 2011 Salaries

    Hadn't noticed any discussion on this...if I missed it, kill it.

    http://www.mlsplayers.org/files/May%...0By%20Club.pdf

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    Excellent, excellent spread of salary cap.
    Lots of good, cheap players, no more overpricing (Martina at 90k for example)
    Frei making 150k is fair.
    Stevanovic at 250k is I guess justified based on his pedigree.
    All in all, a much more "average" salary spread than years past.

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    Ouch...when you take all the salaries into account, it almost 2.4mill of base salaries and 2.7mill of guaranteed comp. When you take into account that we are paying half of DeRo and Barrett's contracts, unless we have a crapload of allocation space, there is no more room for players.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmenJBX View Post
    Excellent, excellent spread of salary cap.
    Lots of good, cheap players, no more overpricing (Martina at 90k for example)
    Frei making 150k is fair.
    Stevanovic at 250k is I guess justified based on his pedigree.
    All in all, a much more "average" salary spread than years past.
    That's a good thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    Ouch...when you take all the salaries into account, it almost 2.4mill of base salaries and 2.7mill of guaranteed comp. When you take into account that we are paying half of DeRo and Barrett's contracts, unless we have a crapload of allocation space, there is no more room for players.



    That's a good thing?
    Consider the fact that we payed Garcia 200k+, Barrett 250k and De Rosario 350k, I'd say we're getting a lot more bang for the buck now.

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    Players in the roster spots from 21 to 30 don't count towards the cap.

    And I didn't know Stevanovic's salary was that high. Is TFC paying that in full?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J View Post
    Players in the roster spots from 21 to 30 don't count towards the cap.

    And I didn't know Stevanovic's salary was that high. Is TFC paying that in full?

    Ah ok, that does not make somewhat of a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmenJBX View Post
    Consider the fact that we payed Garcia 200k+, Barrett 250k and De Rosario 350k, I'd say we're getting a lot more bang for the buck now.
    Barrett and DeRo were our top 2 scorers last year and they totaled 600k in salary. How many player salaries are you going to have to add up to reach their production on goals and assists by the end of the year? I wouldn't be surprised if goes well past 600k. So in that respect, no, it's not better "bang for your buck". I am not sure how you are measuring this efficiency, but it will be an interesting exercise at the end of the year.

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    We have a good spread to move forward in the future (beyond this season)

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    The salaries confuse me a bit. Which is it that is the actual cap hit, the base salary, or the compensation? And what is the difference between them? How would someone get the 'compensation' rate, instead of the base?

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    Adrian Cann, Stephan Frei, Peterson (especially), Srurgis and Stenanovich, WTF?

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    do Harden and Peterson have the same agent? if so, he's a fucking genius.

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    Peterson is over-paid by about $100,000 a year.

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    Wow Ecky only on 75,000? That's a steal. Soolsma seems a little overrated considering that at >$80k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    Ouch...when you take all the salaries into account, it almost 2.4mill of base salaries and 2.7mill of guaranteed comp. When you take into account that we are paying half of DeRo and Barrett's contracts, unless we have a crapload of allocation space, there is no more room for players.
    You should also keep in mind that Tchani is a GA player, so he has no cap hit.

    Did Frei graduate from GA?
    Last edited by menefreghista; 05-08-2011 at 07:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogsy View Post
    Ouch...when you take all the salaries into account, it almost 2.4mill of base salaries and 2.7mill of guaranteed comp. When you take into account that we are paying half of DeRo and Barrett's contracts, unless we have a crapload of allocation space, there is no more room for players.

    In your math have you considered:

    - only the first 20 roster spots count against the cap
    - Tchani is a Gen Adidas player and does not count

    ?

    Regardless, only the base salaries count against the cap. Cap is 2.67M.

    And if we bring in someone else, only half of their salary counts against the 2011 cap given when they would arrive with the transfer window.

    Assuming that we didn't release anyone off the current roster we could easily fit in a cap max hit player (ie. DP or combination thereof) without allocation money.

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    TFC ONLY

    BASE/GUARANTEED COMP.

    Attakora $ 45,000/ $ 45,000
    Borman $ 42,000/ $ 42,000
    Bouchiba $ 92,004/ $ 92,004
    Cann $ 123,996/ $ 132,746
    Cordon $ 32,604/ $ 32,604
    de Guzman $1,863,996/ $1,910,746
    Eckersley $ 75,000/ $ 90,000
    Frei $ 100,000/ $ 155,000
    Gargan $ 70,000/ $ 70,000
    Gold $ 42,000/ $ 42,000
    Gordon $ 96,504/ $ 96,504
    Harden $ 65,000/ $ 73,666.67
    Henry $ 42,000/ $ 43,000
    Kocic $ 42,000/ $ 42,000
    Lindsay $ 42,000/ $ 43,000
    Makubuya $ 32,604/ $ 32,604
    Martina $ 89,460/ $ 96,140.75
    Morgan $ 32,604/ $ 32,604
    Omphroy $ 42,000/ $ 42,000
    Peterson $ 142,500/ $ 150,775
    Plata $ 42,000/ $ 42,000
    Santos $ 126,000/ $ 126,000
    Soolsma $ 86,004/ $ 86,004
    Stevanovich $ 240,000/ $ 250,000
    Stinson $ 32,604/ $ 32,604
    Sturgis $ 85,000/ $ 89,250
    Tchani $ 90,000/ $ 194,000
    Williams $ 50,004/ $ 50,004
    Yourassowsky $ 80,004/ $ 81,670.67
    Zavarise $ 42,000/ $ 46,517.75

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    Salary & Budget:

    • Players occupying roster spots 1-20 count against the club’s 2011 salary budget of $2,675,000, and are referred to collectively as the club’s Salary Budget Players.
    • Roster spots 19 and 20 are not required to be filled, and teams may spread their salary budget across only 18 Salary Budget Players. A minimum salary budget charge will be imputed against a team’s salary budget for each unfilled senior roster slot below 18.
    • The maximum budget charge for a single player is $335,000.*
    • A Designated Player counts $335,000 against the club’s salary budget, unless the player joins his club in the middle of the season, in which case his budget charge will be $167,500.

    * See section entitled Allocation Money below, under Player Acquisition Mechanisms, for details on buying down a player’s budget charge.

    • Players occupying roster spots 21-30 do not count against the club’s salary budget, and are referred to collectively as the club’s Off-Budget Players (maximum of 10 per team).
    • All Generation adidas players are Off-Budget players.


    • Players occupying roster spots 1-24 will earn at least $42,000 in 2011.
    • Players occupying roster spots 25-30 will earn at least $32,600 in 2011.
    • Clubs may elect to leave up to two of these roster spots (25-30) vacant and use $35,000 for each empty spot as allocation money.
    • Clubs may sign up to two Home Grown Players to Generation adidas contracts.
    1. de Guzman Julian M $ 1 ,863,996.00 $ 1,910,746.00
    2. Stevanovic Alen M $ 240,000.00 $ 250,000.00
    3. Peterson Jacob F $ 142,500.00 $ 150,775.00
    4. Santos Maicon F $ 126,000.00 $ 126,000.00
    5. Cann Adrian D $ 123,996.00 $ 132,746.00
    6. Frei Stefan GK $ 100,000.00 $ 155,000.00
    7. Bouchiba Elbekay M $ 92,004.00 $ 92,004.00
    8. Gordon Alan F $ 96,504.00 $ 96,504.00
    9. Tchani Tony M $ 90,000.00 $ 194,000.00
    10. Martina Javier F $ 89,460.00 $ 96,140.75
    11. Soolsma Nick M-F $ 86,004.00 $ 86,004.00
    12. Sturgis Nathan D-M $ 85,000.00 $ 89,250.00
    13. Yourassowsky Mikael D $ 80,004.00 $ 81,670.67
    14. Eckersley Richard D $ 75,000.00 $ 90,000.00
    15. Gargan Daniel M $ 70,000.00 $ 70,000.00
    16. Harden Ty D $ 65,000.00 $ 73,666.67
    17. Williams Dicoy D $ 50,004.00 $ 50,004.00
    18. Attakora-Gyan Nana D $ 45,000.00 $ 45,000.00
    19. Zavarise Gianluca M $ 42,000.00 $ 46,517.75
    20. Lindsay Nicholas F $ 42,000.00 $ 43,000.00

    21. Henry Doneil D $ 42,000.00 $ 43,000.00
    22. Plata Joao F $ 42,000.00 $ 42,000.00
    23. Omphroy Demitrius D $ 42,000.00 $ 42,000.00
    24. Kocic Milos GK $ 42,000.00 $ 42,000.00
    25. Gold Matt M $ 42,000.00 $ 42,000.00
    26. Borman Danleigh M $ 42,000.00 $ 42,000.00
    27. Cordon Oscar M $ 32,604.00 $ 32,604.00
    28. Makubuya Keith F $ 32,604.00 $ 32,604.00
    29. Morgan Ashtone D $ 32,604.00 $ 32,604.00
    30. Stinson Matthew M $ 32,604.00 $ 32,604.00

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    Fairly good salary spread. Once we stop paying all those bad Mo Johnston contracts we'll have some more breathing room.

    Hypothetically we'd still be under the cap at this point no?

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    based on the top 20 idea and only base salary counting against the cap including half of barrett's and DeRo's, we are approaching 2.3mil, so we are 370k-400k under the cap, but we have 30 players now, so someone will have to be released in order to make room for any new signing

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    Wow - Eckersley at that price is a huge grab.

    I think most will agree J-Pete is overpriced.

    And Stevanovic, well, even though I'm a huge fan, I'm surprised about the salary. I'm very happy he's on the squad though and thought he had a great game last night. Hopefully he stays fit and we see some great production from him going forward.

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    Among the non-DP contracts, Peterson's salary is an eye sore. Otherwise, it's a very reasonable spread throughout the roster.

    It's encouraging to note that management has enough cap space to sign 1-2 impact players during the summer transfer window, pending the release of 2 existing roster players.

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    I'm assuming that is Eckersley's wage at burnley unless we've only had to pay a percentage same for stevanovic

    I am I correct that nicholas Lindsay was de-activated or w/e since he is a long term injury, leaving us with a free roster spot? Or is that only FM rules ahahah.
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    Lindsay, and depending on his recovery from surgery, Bouchiba, could be SEIs, permitting replacement signings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmenJBX View Post
    Excellent, excellent spread of salary cap.
    Lots of good, cheap players, no more overpricing (Martina at 90k for example)
    Frei making 150k is fair.
    Stevanovic at 250k is I guess justified based on his pedigree.
    All in all, a much more "average" salary spread than years past.
    yeah, this roster is much more reasonably priced based on performance than in previous years. Not as many MoJo-type anonymous overpaid players. And some good value players too, like Eck.
    Last edited by rocker; 05-08-2011 at 11:40 AM.

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    I hope that is not the salary that Cann was pissed about lol

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    Kenny Cooper $250,000 .. wow .. steal.

    And yet we in 5 years still don't have a legit striker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerRed View Post
    Wow - Eckersley at that price is a huge grab.

    I think most will agree J-Pete is overpriced.

    And Stevanovic, well, even though I'm a huge fan, I'm surprised about the salary. I'm very happy he's on the squad though and thought he had a great game last night. Hopefully he stays fit and we see some great production from him going forward.
    Stevanovic salary is 6000 Euro per week,we are covering only one part of his Inter/Torino based salary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MG42 View Post
    I hope that is not the salary that Cann was pissed about lol
    it is, he wanted 175k they offered 160k, he walked away and got what he has now

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    Quote Originally Posted by boban View Post
    Kenny Cooper $250,000 .. wow .. steal.

    And yet we in 5 years still don't have a legit striker.
    are you trying to say that getting him was at all a possibility

    because it wasn't

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    Dropping Tchani and JDG down to $335k our current roster is $1,985,476.

    We know we have some of Dero and Barretts but we also get allocation $ for not making the playoffs as well as making the Concacaf we should be in great position to pick up a DP mid year.

    I also love the new home grown rule. If we develop a guy like Cordon each year that can turn into a starter our roster will be solid.

 

 

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