And the real question:
Why are the police not doing anything?
Is it really more important to deal with
people enjoying a beer in the parking lot
instead of dealing with organized criminals?
Scalpers are a real Problem - Video
And the real question:
Why are the police not doing anything?
Is it really more important to deal with
people enjoying a beer in the parking lot
instead of dealing with organized criminals?
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These guys are all connected, police isn't going to do shit. End of.
Thank You Barbarez..Originally Posted by Barbarez
I love how some people feel the need to be world police..
Scalpers are all over the world ..Its part of life jesus.. Just go to the MLS game and Sing.. Go buy a $10 dollar beer and enjoy that scalp
yep. don't bother standing up for what's right, because there's no way to change things.
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i think the bullets will still go thru that chair!!!yep. don't bother standing up for what's right, because there's no way to change things.
yep. don't bother standing up for what's right, because there's no way to change things.
Ya cause in our society this is the most pressing issue!!!!!!
Go get em Tiger.. Film it too so you can incriminate yourself..
Fuck the scalpers. They are scum of the earth.
Toronto FC baby...best team everrrrrrrrrr -Jozy
Sooooooooooooo... How do you feel about this?
Using your powers for good I see Parky?
Using your powers for good I see Parky?
For Good or For AWESOME !
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail1.html
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Doesn't get any more awesome than that!
i remember home star runner, back in the suburban grade school kids were talking about it 24/7 and decided to check it out. i used to watch those everyday but i forgot about it and im grown !! thanks for the memories...lol
That is awesome!!! I used to do that last year, but some dude yelled at me because his kid was right there. As a good Canadian I felt bad, but in the end I think I was right to admonish these "parasites". Good capture Parkdale... Next time get a vid without a TFC supporter (he will remain nameless -
I wanna see a W5 special on this.
W5
Who - scalpers
what - being pricks
where - bmo field
when - game day
why - fuck'em
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so awesome.
we should make this a bit of a mission...
Good Work.
Although it would help if we had some muscle when we confront them...
(where's Croat when you need him???)
"Bang Bang Your Dead"
there was a police woman on the street by the go train station this past game... i guess someone complained to the po-po's about the agressive scalpers?
She wasn't doing shit but looking pretty. I passed by her and pointed out the guys that were scalping and she just said
"I know."
I don't usually drop it, but WTF?
Probably just wanted her extra pay for Canada Day and nooooo problems.
Last edited by Stencils; 07-03-2008 at 10:40 AM.
Aside from warning scalpers for aggression (though that was a rather provoked instance) there is little the police can do. In order to remove them from property, they would need a complaint, and I don't know who would need to complain (the city maybe?). It also isn't their job to check prices on all resale (as I believe it's legal to resell as long as it isn't above face value, though it could be a certain percentage over and above that).
Essentially, the cops are powerless. If you want to stop the scalpers (or at least severely limit them), it has to come from within the TFC organisation. I don't know the rules they are working under (what is considered cause for revoking someone's season's tickets?) but they should be able to, fairly easily, determine who is scalping and who isn't. Hell, I'm sure they could even enlist the help of supporters to buy tickets from scalpers. At that point, revoke all tickets associated with that person, and redistribute them to people on the waiting list.
The truth is though, TFC has no reason to be too aggressive here. Scalpers can actually be beneficial for them, by keeping tickets on the market for people who really want to come to a game, and by testing the market to see demand, and what price is valid. They get all of this without having to get their own hands dirty as well.
Personally, what I could propose to TFC is to target scalpers in specific sections. Target scalpers specifically selling tickets in the south end. This way you can get more tickets to the people creating the atmosphere that has made you famous, and you won't get people buying from a scalper without knowing what they're getting in to, and having a negative experience with your product (swearing, standing, etc).
My understanding of law and scalpers are this (Quebec Version):
Its not illegal for someone to sell the ticket for more than face value if the person buying states the price.
If the scalper says the price, it is illegal.
So, if you go to a scalper and he says $65 per ticket...thats illegal
But, if you go to scalper and he barters you to an agreement above the face value, its not. Hence how eBay gets away with it. You agreed to the price.
.....I think
In Ontario, the Ticket Speculation Act forbids the purchase or sale of tickets for greater than face value.
If this was the case, then why does TFC allow STH to set their own prices on ticketsnow? Clearly this Ticket Speculation Act is not law which is why it is not enforced by anyone, or any organization.
The law was changed in the intervening 9-odd years () since that post was made to allow shit like TicketsNow.
Toronto FC baby...best team everrrrrrrrrr -Jozy
one guy followed me and my dad and keep asking to buy tickets and we said no but he keep following us so we told him to fuck off and called the cops near gate 1 he ran
They aggressively solicit and when you tell them to screw off they start with the comments and the aggression. There are two laws they break: The aggressive solicitation laws and the ticket speculation laws.
It's a joke that the cops stand by idly and let this shit happen. People go on about "fair market value" and shit for the tickets, but these criminals falsely manufacture this demand by purchasing the best tickets for events and then reselling them at exhorbitant prices.
It's even worse now that somehow it's become legal for Ticketmaster to own StubHub.
Toronto FC baby...best team everrrrrrrrrr -Jozy
StubHub is owned by eBay
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StubHub
Sorry, TicketsNow. Same type of shit.
Basically, they can now scalp their own tickets online.
Toronto FC baby...best team everrrrrrrrrr -Jozy
Yeah. Stubhub gave them quite the fright. There is no way to keep this off the net. Unless you start making draconian laws and going after the consumer in markets (like Ontario, some states and provinces) where this is theoretically illegal. Non-season tickets are going to be all electronic and anything digital will be traded on the web.
The problem: supporters section tickets are on the open market.
Last edited by chip_butty; 07-03-2008 at 11:02 AM.
I believe eBay owns StubHub now. TicketRaper has created its own auction site within TicketRaper.com.
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