http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/03/cann-leaves-camp
not sure if this is supposed to have its own thread, so if it should be somewhere else, please move it, but i didn't see anything on this yet.
cann leaves camp
http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2011/03/cann-leaves-camp
not sure if this is supposed to have its own thread, so if it should be somewhere else, please move it, but i didn't see anything on this yet.
i'm really not a fan of the timing of this most of all. i don't even know what else to say right now.
booo-urns.
maybe he is going to train with Celtic...
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Originally Posted by werewolf
Oh boy... here we go...
this is bad news to say the least
Toronto FC, where circus happens.
Unfortunate timing to say the least....
is he Dero's roommate by chance? Me feels the dero virus is spreading.
Man I thought it was his awesome attitude and willingness to give it all for the badge that made Cann a player of the year. Sure beats that selfish De Rosario character eh...
Oh wait.
More proof that players play for money and not for people's fanciful notions of loyalty.
And good for Cann for being a greedy player, because that's what I expect out of people who are trying to make a living playing the game.
I don't know where people get their flights of fancy. We tried telling them ALL players are like this and nobody believed us. Somehow they think other players are different. They're not. I really don't know why people are getting upset. Cann and the team are obviously in the middle of negotiations. The team is obviously willing to reward him with a new contract mid-term of his old one (something else people around here deny all the time) but obviously they are not offering enough. Him and the team will eventually work it out. What's the big deal about this? This is life in soccer people. What rock have you been under?
If a player shits the bed after signing a new contract, would you support a club being able to suspend the player without pay until he agrees to a cramdown on his contract such that his pay reflects his production?
somehow i doubt it.
That's the problem. If breaking your contract to negotiate a new one at higher $$$ is the norm, but you can never do the opposite ....... how the fuck is that sustainable in a cap world?
It isn't sustainable.
I like Cann but I can't support the idea of a player holding out when they are under contract. What still puzzles me is why is this deal being renegotiated in the first place? Who initiated that process?
In the absence of a "restricted free agency-like system", with arbitration rights in his future, he and others may feel trapped. Still, unless you are prepared to give back money to the club if performance declines, you can't be supported for playing holdout.
Last edited by Pookie; 03-02-2011 at 10:52 PM.
Being as the MLS has a CBA similar to the NFL where many if not most contracts are not guaranteed for their whole terms, we are talking about players who if they don't perform will indeed find themselves out of a job. People run around on this website acting like once the team agrees to a contract, they are held to it for the whole term. The CBA still favours the owners, not the players. Therefore, players are obligated to take harder stands simply to protect themselves.
I am sure my post will make Roogsy's head explode.
I do believe that once you sign a contract you should honour it but in this case TFC should (does not have to) work with Cann and Attakora on a contract extention.
Cann's situation is totally different than that of Dero. Caan is making close to the league minimum vs other players in the league and Dero is paid on par with other players in the league for his contribution. Cann is making close to the league minimum and played in almost every game for TFC last year, was team MVP and along wtih Attakora, Frei and JDG worked to reduce TFC's goals against from 1.38 to 1.19 per game.
TFC is holding their ground because they have 3 players in a similar situation. If they renegotiate with Cann they have to renegotiate Attakora and Frei.
Bang on.
Though Attakora's contract expires at the end of this season so TFC will have to offer him a new contract soon.
Hey, if Cann's tactic works, I expect every player on the team to pull the same stunt when they want a new contract.
Exactly... don't open a CANN of worms.
We're probably not competing for the MLS cup this year anyway. I'd tell these guys to suck it up and play or sit the fuck out.
Keep the ball rolling on the Academy.
Dero's polluting their mindsjk, but roh roh.
trying to Cann them out of more money??!! yeah that was pretty bad.
Actually I kinda laughed..
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
Although the dude is a stand up guy, I say let him walk. He seemed to fit OK last year with our defense first tactics but I dont' see him as having the finesse we need from our back end to move the ball forward.
can he be released straight up without cap issues?
Can he walk out in the middle of a contract? Anything goes in TFC land.
Don't worry about the roster guys - TFC is going to have a promotion at the home opener where they select seat numbers and that person fills a spot on the bench!
"...Money wasn't tight, but it like, it wasn't right..."
Finally some serious thought, .....
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WHY would they publish this?
seiously stupid. .
negotions are taking place and they hang string the player?
bad form.
Hang in there Peaches. . . I hope it all works out.
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I think their hands were tied. If it was just Orlando, it could be swept under the carpet, but people would notice his absence in Carolina. And then the club would be blamed for hiding things from us. No win situation.
really? dude picked up his ball and went home; he left the entire squad hung out to dry just before their final tune-up games.
why wouldn't the team try to put the onus on him?
TFC is going to have to take a stand with this shit.
This is how to destabilize a team very quickly. The players have to know that when you make a public show of yourself whilst trying to re-negotiate mid contract, there will be consequences.
Cann's an alright player and all, but who does he think he is exactly? What about the pre-season has indicated to him that he will 100% be a starting centre half ? He has not been very solid so far back there.
I just think this is a very troubling trend we have here.
if it looks like a turd...
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