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    Quote Originally Posted by CBTFC View Post
    I'm definitely drinking the Oranje Kool-Aid.

    The most promising words spoken during that press conference were "3 strikers" and "Score more goals". Goosebumps I tell ya.
    Did someone say Ruud van Nistelrooy!

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    4-3-3 dammit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocker View Post
    only thing said about training facilities was that the MLSE board approved a $17 million complex but location still has to be finalized.
    Thanks!

    Agreed, godfrey's questions are brutal.

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    They didnt say who would be the reserve team coach.........

    is soony siloy coming over tooo???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris View Post
    agreed.
    its very hard to get excited when weve been disappointed and for lack of a better word screwed for how many years now

    No, this is different. We had valid reasons to be disappointed and they've been addressed. There is reason for optimism here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocker View Post
    only thing said about training facilities was that the MLSE board approved a $17 million complex but location still has to be finalized.
    kinda retarded when you can spend 17mil on a training complex, but 2.6mil on salary cap by comparison
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

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    im excited - but still cynically guarded - thinking about the prospect of supporting an offensively fluid-playing team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beach_Red View Post
    No, this is different. We had valid reasons to be disappointed and they've been addressed. There is reason for optimism here.
    I dont think people arent excited, but when you look at history its tough not to have guarded optimism based on the track record of the owners sports franchises. I think I would be tough not to be optimistic at this juncture but equally tough to not have caution surrounding it.


    Still, Ive been recycling TFC songs in my head since the actual announcement has come out and would happily be at BMO today watching a game, getting it done for 90 in the stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    kinda retarded when you can spend 17mil on a training complex, but 2.6mil on salary cap by comparison
    well, not really. take the NFL, the pinnacle of north american sports. each team spends a whack on their new stadia (cowboys well over $1bn) but the salary cap is around $120MM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loconet View Post

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    de klerk looks like professional hitman or something lol
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

    -Eduardo Galeano

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    lmao @ the Mariner avatar

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    hey free gol tv today too!!!

    EDIT: Spoke to soon
    Last edited by Shway; 01-06-2011 at 02:05 PM.

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    bonus!!! ATM v espanyol coverage hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by loconet View Post
    They hired Ageroo?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J . View Post
    I dont think people arent excited, but when you look at history its tough not to have guarded optimism based on the track record of the owners sports franchises. I think I would be tough not to be optimistic at this juncture but equally tough to not have caution surrounding it.


    Still, Ive been recycling TFC songs in my head since the actual announcement has come out and would happily be at BMO today watching a game, getting it done for 90 in the stands.

    Sure, but this is making the things that worked against us work for us - like Yohan said it's weird to have a salary cap of 2.3 million but spend 17 million (well, probably more, that's just the MLSE investment) on a training facility but that's what we've been talking about here for years, there are a lot of things the ownership can do to get a team past the parity of the league - there's no salary cap on management or facilities and so on. I complained about MLSE not doing these things for years but now that they are I have to recognize it.

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    I feel very good about the moves today.

    Time to get over a 14 month depression and look up to better days ahead!

    Anti-football is dead. Long live total football!!!
    MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    de klerk looks like professional hitman or something lol
    mariner= elvis costello.

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    so dero's apparently coming back form what they all say, would he play as one of the three strikers? or would it be 3 + DeRo?

    I'd imagine a Guevara type would work best as an am behind 3 strikers.

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    I don't want to rain on the parade but I can't see TFC bringing in the right players to make a 4-3-3 work.

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    Having watched the entire press conference and all the sit down interviews with the new personnel, all I can say is...



    Bring on the 2011 season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlofletch View Post
    so dero's apparently coming back form what they all say, would he play as one of the three strikers? or would it be 3 + DeRo?
    Hold the horses on that one. What they gave was the political answer, that they expect him back.

    Celtic could still offer a contract, he could still hold out for a new contract, etc, etc. Lots to play out but the good news is that today isn't about Dwayne.

    Very excited about the investment in the management and training/development. That has been lacking for some time. Very curious to see the evolution of their vision of "Total Football" from opening day 2011 to what it will look like 2-3 years down the road.

    We may find some hidden talents within our ranks under a new playing system which would be welcomed until the real horses come in via transfer, trade or future development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb_Star View Post
    I don't want to rain on the parade but I can't see TFC bringing in the right players to make a 4-3-3 work.
    oh we're going to struggle in 2011 for sure. how many times did they plead for patience? could be some high scoring defeats next year.

    the future does look bright though, especially if the academy kids start coming through well versed in this style.

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    This clearly has to be a 2 year build.

    If we some how pull it out of our ass in year one I'll be happy, but not expecting much other than being entertained.

    It's going to take a lot to implement a 4-3-3 and be successful. But, at the same time i think there's a better way to go about business than some of the garbage other MLS teams have been up lately.

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    ^ While this is not my favourite type of football, this is the type of football that my club, AC MIlan has been playing for some time.


    Others have said it, but generaly one CF, (Ibrahimovich/Borriello), two SS/AM ( Robinho/Ronaldinho/Pato), and one playmaker (Seedorf/Pirlo), playing ahead of two DMs (Gattuso/Ambrosini).

    I think that in TFC terms it could look something like;


    -------------------------Santos -------------------------

    -----------Barret----------------------De Ro------------
    -------------------------JDG------------------------------

    -----------La broca-----------------Gargan/Sanchez-----

    [something like that]

    Considering who mistake prone most MLS defenses are, it could produce result quickly if played right. When we played under cummings againts Chivas, with Dichio I belive, we looked as good as we ever did, or close to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb_Star View Post
    I don't want to rain on the parade but I can't see TFC bringing in the right players to make a 4-3-3 work.
    You are raining... but the forecast is for sunshine.
    MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto

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    Quality CBs and DMs are key to have this succees, both in attack and defense, if you have quality in this position and can switch play quickly from attack to defense and vice versa this can be lethal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trane View Post
    Considering who mistake prone most MLS defenses are, it could produce result quickly if played right. When we played under cummings againts Chivas, with Dichio I belive, we looked as good as we ever did, or close to it.
    I think that might be my favorite TFC game of all time. They kept the ball on the deck the entire time and Serioux just destroyed everyone.

 

 

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