He might but I would say lets get the first JDG performing before we bring another one...Originally Posted by Waggy
He might but I would say lets get the first JDG performing before we bring another one...
He's now playing in the La Liga at Mallorca under Michael Laudrup. I seriously doubt even Winter would be able to bring him to the MLS. Also, unlike Julian, Jonathan is actually wanted overseas. Even if he wanted to come here, he'd probably want a massive DP deal - and right now I think we need to focus on getting a DP striker.
Jonathan has been a stud for Mallorca, eg player of the match against Barca, this from 2 weeks ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKoaInLJnWM
He almost went to Man City. His next move is to a big team.
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Speaking of a DP striker, maybe Winter can use his influence to lure Ruud Van Nistlerooy to TFC when he's finished with Hamburg...
I wish the roles of each guy gets better defined, but either way, we might be getting best of... three worlds.
Winter and de Klerk to bring in European system
Daso, Cochrane to give input on Canadian players
Mariner to give input on US/NCAA players
So, hopefully there will now be a better push to expand scouting system and we might develop that solid foundation we've been lacking for a long time
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alright, well this seems positive.
I'm very interested to see who's going to be in what position. I wonder exactly how long they're going to make us wait for something official.
I think I'd rather have winter involved at the technical director level, influencing the academy and overall direction of the club and mariner and de Klerk as coaches, rather than winter as coach, but I guess we'll see.
I'm guardedly optimistic.
and annoyed that once again, i'm at work when big news goes down.
Didn't realize he was having that kind of success. Too bad he's such a twat or I'd be real happy for him
And whatever, I don't want him on the club, just pointing out he's got quite a few connections here now. If he was considering a move west Toronto'd have to be the top of the list. I'll be happy with some good young Dutch talent. Also- I guess this is the end of TFC's use of a player/manager agent as chief scout. Thank god! (Totally forgot the name of the evil agency that took over TFC for a few years)
Edit: Also, as to defined roles, isn't the Ajax system basically you have 3 or 4 footy minds get together and make every decision? They may focus on different areas, like Yohan suggested, but it's very possible the only 'defined' roles would be Winter as the coach on the field and whomever as the guy signing the cheques. Every other decision would be made by the 3 headed monster.
Last edited by Waggy; 01-03-2011 at 11:28 AM.
Not bad.
Now lets get a proper squad assembled sooner than later so they can start practicing together and begin the season with some decent form and attitude.
Yes, First Wave will no longer have any influence on club personnel decisions...
i think when there is an official press conference announcing the hirings, these things will be addressed
i am more interested in what made Winter apply/how he was contacted about the opening...leaving the ajax reserves for this is an interesting change to make; granted, it brings him closer to "home" - Suriname (although I doubt he has lived there in a very long time)...i wonder if he can find some hidden gem from his home country; the next Aron Winter/Edgar Davids
HAHAHA id imagine, we'd be fucked other wise
RVN would be a nice DP signing, but highly doubt it would happen.
Holy crap. When I read the headline I thought WTF are we going to do with a 40-something midfielder. I remember this guy in the Inter heydeys, with Taribo West, I'm going to say George Weah but I know he played for AC Milan, in that era anyway.
I got hooked on Inter back then because of Winter. He looked like an Indian guy playing in the big leagues, and I wanted to know more.
No idea how he is as a coach. As a player I remember him have very little flair, no nonsense guy, in the midfield. I often felt he didn't want the ball, but I guess he had a role and played it well.
He has the pedigree, lets see if he has the talent to translate the coaching chasm between Europe and MLS.
Like the signing, well done Mo...errr.. Earl lol
I'm pretty sure we can thank Klinsmann for this signing.
This sounds promising...
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As a long time Barca fan and Ajax sympathizer, I'm very happy about this although it's an interesting setup. I'm curious to see how the coaching team will work together.. hopefully there is a clear plan. Seems like Mariner is being brought in to keep everyone on the same page about the insanity that is MLS rules?
I have to admit, I'm a little excited. The prospect of inserting some dutch footy brain into this club is phenomenal.... please don't fuck it up!!
Last edited by loconet; 01-03-2011 at 12:16 PM.
Sounds like they are going to have a full team up in management. I just hope the guy running the joint will be strong enough to manage all of the pieces.
I'm cautiously optimistic.
No more, no less. I noticed his name a couple of months back while looking up stats on Ronald Koemann and a couple of other prospective coaches from Holland. Struck me as an interesting idea at the time, but the fact that he was coaching youth system was a bit nerve-inducing.
THat hasn't changed; I'm cautiously optimistic. Lots of reasons to think this pair will do a better job than Mo et al. But he's never coached a men's pro team yet, so let's give him some time to get wet feet.
I have to say that at first listen this all sounds very positive and promising. As with anything in sports, the people chosen may not pan out.. but I can't argue that this is a very good attempt at choosing a serious coaching staff no matter how it all pans out.
He's never coached one, and we've never had one. Perfect!!
^perfect
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This is a name and an idea I can get behind! He young and ambitious. Will want to impose himself. Has a proven assistant role at a big club managing egos and talent and that has proven to be able to develop players. The difference between him and Preki will lie in two areas. 1) The style he imposes. That turned off many people last year. And 2) whether he chooses to run this team with a positive, ambitious environment or if he comes in and starts imposing his will on players creating conflict. Coming from Ajax and considering his national team contributions, I am going to hope and assume that it's the latter and we have a gem on our hands. In which case, well done TFC! I won't let myself get too excited, but I have swung over to the positive side of the spectrum finally.
Fucking eh.
Stop it...
Last edited by Chewy Unikronik; 01-03-2011 at 01:00 PM.
+1....I agree, and depending on his feelings , he can learn from this wonderful dutch infusion....., I think someday he'll be in Van if there's a spot
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Exactly, and they get my support for that alone. Who knows if this will work out, but at least it shows that they're willing to be creative and take calculated risks...that's a first.
Maybe for a little while anyway, we could let the management run the team and not make too many demands about who should be fired and who should be hired.
After the amount of people who demanded DeRo and JDG to be signed by TFC our track record isn't that great...
Quite possibly the best TFC mamagement news i've ever heard. :-)
Winter was the poor man's Rijkaard at Ajax after Rijkaard went to AC Milan with Gullit and Marco vBasten.
if we can begin to play anything like Ajax every young player in north and central america will want to come here. It will make our club wonderful.
Four years in the wilderness, but maybe we see a light on the horizon.
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