PROTEST - the next step. A call to arms..

[ochos]

I haven't seen anything definite enough yet, but frankly with things at a boiling point it's time we banded together and make a very public, highly publicized stance on the issues at hand.

There is more than enough time between now and the next home game/MLS cup to organize, not to mention the amount of anger and energy that has gone as far as making it's way to the mainstream press in this city.

Personally, I would be willing to go as far as to "walk the line" outside concessions at BMO, create letter/flyer campaigns to distribute through the stadium and help setup websites to promote our cause. Fairweather fans and SG members alike need to be a part of the solution otherwise the divide and conquer concept will prevail and ultimately ruin our team. We have to present a solution to all TFC fans, not just members on this board.

I present a few options I see as the most popular and prevelant opinions I've seen on the board to date. I will be renewing my season's tickets and I would prefer to go to all games (including the MLS Cup), but we need to get a more clear idea as to what the group concensus is.

WHAT IS THE BEST FORM OF PROTEST FOR THE END OF THE YEAR?

I have not included things like not renewing seasons tickets or not doing anything at all. If those are your answers then please do not respond to this poll.

Thanks,

[Azerban]

break or steal an amount of MLSE things >= your cost of season tickets

done

[razor787]

Black shirts at the mls cup. No singing (unless it's anti-MLSE). Banners against MLSE and the suits.

Those things are a must in my eyes. Someone also brought up protesting infront of the ACC on the night of the leafs home opener. That would be a great idea as well.

[CretanBull]

I was going to de-rail your thread by saying that even if you don't want to hear it, the BEST form of protest is to not renew. Having read Azerban's response, I now believe that not renewing is the second best form of protest.

[Parkdale]

I've said this in a few places


a Protest at BMO is inefficient because people will cheer for the team (and we need to make sure the team knows we are not angry with them, but with the owners).

If we really wanted to make our voices heard, with a single message of discontent.... it can't be during a game.


two words: RealSports

[Azerban]

two words: RealSports

lob a beer bottle into their giant tv and book it

that'll cover my suggestion for at least this year

[H Bomb]

break or steal an amount of MLSE things >= your cost of season tickets

done

wait til after the 15th of Oct (renewal day) and then destroy the MLSE servers, accounts stations. And then have everyone claim they paid in a lump sum for the whole season. Or just clear their building late at night and bring it down.

[Parkdale]

okay guys..... let's not get too carried away with the destruction of things..... let's save the thread for things that will actually make a difference

[H Bomb]

you think anything short of destruction will make a difference? Stop playing their game by their rules peoples. Destroy destroy destroy

[jabbronies]

I thought that the Newcastle fans have done well with their protests over ownership the past few years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...ne/7613887.stm

basic and simple. We do a huge banner that tells off MLSE. and then everyone makes their own signage - doesn't have to be fancy - so that the message is seen everywhere.

Then we get some dead simple chants going in stadium, then we take our protest to gate 4? (exec entrance) after the game and continue the protest from there.

[Azerban]

why not, everyone else is posting things that will never happen because we're lazy internet nerds

[Roogsy]

I am going to use the toilet and NOT wash my hands. That'll show'em!

[Azerban]

I am going to use the toilet and NOT wash my hands. That'll show'em!

only if you work food service near the club seats

[Heathen]

I am going to use the toilet and NOT wash my hands. That'll show'em!

Cool, I've been protesting all these years and never knew it

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

The biggest statment to me would be to attend the Columbus game then walk out!.... But im willing to do whatever the group decides

btw i hit the wrong vote...

i wanted...

I'd be willing to attend/not attend the Columbus game depending on group concensus

[ochos]

I thought that the Newcastle fans have done well with their protests over ownership the past few years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...ne/7613887.stm

basic and simple. We do a huge banner that tells off MLSE. and then everyone makes their own signage - doesn't have to be fancy - so that the message is seen everywhere.

Then we get some dead simple chants going in stadium, then we take our protest to gate 4? (exec entrance) after the game and continue the protest from there.

Great suggestions - I would like to continue making BMO a great atmosphere, and protest in game. The worst thought is BMO taking a a nose dive a la the NHL/Maple Leafs moving to ACC. TFC will not survive like the Leafs if the atmosphere suffers..

[tfcmanu]

2 Words..... BROWN PAPER Bags!

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

I think this should be in the membership section ....

[Wull]

How about standing outside for the first half of the columbus game or something? (I'd say 20 minutes but that wouldn't be any different from the norm!!)

[Menelaos]

Don't go to the MLS cup.
If you bought a ticket, eat it. I know this is hard to ask for, but if you are not prepared to do this, then you really aren't prepared to protest and put your money where your mouth is.
Nothing would get them more...NOTHING...then to have an empty house on their big day.

[mastermixer]

How about waiting until the absolute last minute to renew your tickets for next year. Make them earn our money by calling and causing concern about renewal numbers to the high up suits.
If they see anger on here, but see a decent renewal so far its all for nothing.

[P-NUTZ]

2 Words..... BROWN PAPER Bags!

thats actually really spot on in many ways - clear to the point among sports fans everywhere.

[mastermixer]

How about standing outside for the first half of the columbus game or something? (I'd say 20 minutes but that wouldn't be any different from the norm!!)

East end has been doing this for the past two seasons! lol

[DavydMT]

PLEASE ADD AN OPTION
- NO MORE PROTEST THREADS -
Please close.


Come to Academy game on Sunday

[jabbronies]

Let's be honest here. We've seen a dozen and one protest threads over the past two years.

Things that never work for us
- Boycotting games
- walking out of games
- not buying beer
- wearing black
- not chanting at all during the games

Things that do work
- Signage
- Protest chants

Let's focus on what we do best.

[Roogsy]

Let's be honest here. We've seen a dozen and one protest threads over the past two years.

Things that do work
- Signage
- Protest chants

Let's focus on what we do best.

Is "things that work" meaning that things that we can actually do well? You're not really indicating effectiveness right?

[razor787]

Let's be honest here. We've seen a dozen and one protest threads over the past two years.

Things that never work for us
- Boycotting games
- walking out of games
- not buying beer
- wearing black
- not chanting at all during the games

Things that do work
- Signage
- Protest chants

Let's focus on what we do best.

I agree that the boycott, walking, beer ban, and being quiet wont work. But for the MLS Final, I think wearing black would work quite well. Not many people would have the jerseys for the two teams anyway, and since its not a TFC game, people would be ok with not wearing red.

What I think we should do
- Black shirts
- Banners/2 sticks/black flags (those would be REALLY noticeable)
- Several easy to memorize protest chants

[Azerban]

we can hardly get people wearing all red for a normal game, much less a completely different colour

black flags and two sticks is an amazing idea though

also i have no idea why people can't not buy beer, you bitch about your tickets going up a hundred bucks and then two fist beers every game? fuck off

[menefreghista]

How could you even do a black t-shirt protest at the MLS Cup.

Everyone will be wearing parkas for that game.

[Pookie]

Personally, I think an extremely effective protest would be if you could get the masses to forego going to the game.

I'd arrange for the informed SGs to the go TO the MLS Cup Game but not go inside. Have Media "cheat sheets" available and you are surely to draw the attention of the ESPN cameras to the plight. Extremely negative brand exposure for MLSE (as a brand) and something that the single entity owner (MLS) would surely be concerned about.